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Old Nov 21, 2010 | 09:20 PM
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The wifes 04 EB Expedition just shuts down while driving at highway speeds. It has the 5.4 and the problem is intermintent and no engines codes. You have to pull over put it in park and it will restart . It will only restart in park I tryed in neuteral but it would not start. It may do this a few times a week. It has 105K on it.

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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 11:57 AM
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I have had the same issue. When I bought the truck (99 Navigator ) it had a aftermarket sound system in it. I had the issue for about 2 weeks and then decided to change the system out to something more mild. I reran the the power line that was connected near the drivers side kick panel(aftermarket) and was fine. 2 weeks later I decided to run that line again and Bam it stalled on me again. I have since disconnected it and no issues. i called the transmission shop to ask them what the deal was and he told me it might be the ABS Switch on the rear axle or the connector has dirt in it to the transmission(wire harness). He told me to chech the harness and make sure its on tight and is all clean. Its exposed to the elements as well. i have also changed that and no issues at all. Try some of those suggestions and let me know what happens or if you find out what the issue is please post it and let me know what it was. Mind boggling isnt it.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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You have to pull over put it in park and it will restart. It will only restart in park I tried in neutral but it would not start.
Hmm, maybe the range sensor down on the tranny is acting up. The clue is that you cannot start it when in neutral. I'm thinking that if the sensor is acting up and the ECM loses communication with it, the ECM shuts down the engine as a safety feature because it doesn't know which gear to put the tranny in. Just a thought!
 
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 10:27 AM
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Hmm, maybe the range sensor down on the tranny is acting up. The clue is that you cannot start it when in neutral. I'm thinking that if the sensor is acting up and the ECM loses communication with it, the ECM shuts down the engine as a safety feature because it does know which gear to put the tranny in. Just a thought!
Thats exactly what I was having also. Just as you described .
 
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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When I had this problem it was on my 2003 navigator. It would stall at highway speeds except I could kick into neutral and turn key all the way off while coasting and restart, then shift back to drive. When it wouldn't restart in neutral I had to safely exit freeway or jump to emergency lane and restart with tranny in Park. In my case it was the relay issue in the GEM module (fuse box). The relay heats up due to bad connection and solder in fuse box on circuit board. The relay itself is the relay which controls PCM. (#41 I think). Dont rule this out as it was a known problem for year (2003)
 
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Old Nov 24, 2010 | 10:48 PM
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This may be a dead thread. It seems my FTE account was hijacked. I did not post the root message.

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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 10:13 AM
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We are working on this...hang in there.
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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Sorry

I figured out I was wrong on my user name. I use toolman on a lot of other sites and was sure I had used it here. But I had not posted in a long time and changed my email address. So I ask the administrator to give me a new password and gave assurance I was toolman. I apoligize for any problems I may have caused.

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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 07:22 PM
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We still have the problem with the 04 Expy
 
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Old Nov 25, 2010 | 08:00 PM
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I figured out I was wrong on my user name.
Oooooooooooooops!
 
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Old Nov 27, 2010 | 02:59 PM
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Figured it was something like that....good luck with your truck !

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Old Nov 30, 2010 | 04:30 PM
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Had a (ford) mechanic tell me when a cylinder miss fires the PCM shuts the fuel down causing the engine to die. You can restart because the PCM is reset when you turn the key off and back on.
He said to replace the plugs and if it still does it replace every coil. He said coils start to break down after 65k??????? My 1999 F150 has 155K and the orginal coils.

What do you think?
 
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 08:46 AM
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It seems pretty unlikely that a misfire would cause the engine to shutdown without a code. When I had a coil go out it misfired, and gave a code, but continued to run until I replaced the coil. This advice seems like an expensive shotgun fix.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 04:35 PM
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I didn't beleive it . But will change the plugs and fuel filter and see what happens their due to change anyway. The no code is what has me puzzled.
 
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Old Dec 2, 2010 | 05:20 PM
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Had the same problem

We had the same problem with our 05 Expedition. First there were no codes, then the service engine light came on so we took it to a garage they said it was #7 Spark Plug, so we changed the spark plugs...a spark plug broke. We were still driving it and then on the highway started losing power...at about 65 mph, stalled and pulled over to restart. We then parked the vehicle ordered a special tool to remove the broken spark plug thinking that it was the spark plug causing all this chaos, and a few days later tried restarting it-it wouldn't start. We then decided to take it back to the garage and had it towed. We found out it was a "smartbox". Replacement cost-$250, labor $250. I've been googling what the heck a smartbox is...can't find anything!!

Good Luck with your problem!
 
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