Hello to all and Help!!
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Hello to all and Help!!
First of all I would like to say hello! I read this forum quite a bit before I bought my truck and really like the posts. I am excited to share my experience with the old Ford bad to new!
Now to the sad news..
This week I purchased a 1959 F-250. The engine runs and everything is in relative good condition however one problem.. The previous owner said that there was a problem with the right rear axle. So when I got it home I put it up on jack stand and went to pulled off the rear tire. Now as I was pull off the tire to my surprise the entire axle came with it! I managed to pull the rim off and this is what I saw.
Now I know that the Bearing and everything are all done for but what part is to hold the axle into the Dif? I am just wondering if anyone has some experience with rear axles, and there input.
Now to the sad news..
This week I purchased a 1959 F-250. The engine runs and everything is in relative good condition however one problem.. The previous owner said that there was a problem with the right rear axle. So when I got it home I put it up on jack stand and went to pulled off the rear tire. Now as I was pull off the tire to my surprise the entire axle came with it! I managed to pull the rim off and this is what I saw.
Now I know that the Bearing and everything are all done for but what part is to hold the axle into the Dif? I am just wondering if anyone has some experience with rear axles, and there input.
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The axle is only held to the hub by the bolts on the end.
The hub is held on by the big nut you see in the picture on the end of the axle housing.
The outer bearing came apart and let the hub pull off over the inner bearing race.
You should have had to take the large nut off after pulling the axle out to get the outer bearing out and the hub off.
Remove the bearing races from the hub and be sure the hub is ok and also take the bearings (or what is left of them) off the housing and be sure the housing is ok. If all is ok you can install new bearings and seals.
Be sure to pack grease in the new bearings.
The hub is held on by the big nut you see in the picture on the end of the axle housing.
The outer bearing came apart and let the hub pull off over the inner bearing race.
You should have had to take the large nut off after pulling the axle out to get the outer bearing out and the hub off.
Remove the bearing races from the hub and be sure the hub is ok and also take the bearings (or what is left of them) off the housing and be sure the housing is ok. If all is ok you can install new bearings and seals.
Be sure to pack grease in the new bearings.
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Hi there, and welcome to the forum! Congratulations on your 'new' truck.
I'm not the resident expert on '59's, but if your rear end is a typical floating axle type, that giant nut you see there is supposed to hold the hub in place and preload your wheel bearings. It seems when your bearings failed, the hub bypassed the nut and the entire assembly came off. I'm not sure if your hub and drum are one piece or if they are two, separate parts. I would be very wary of the hub being damaged, so inspect it closely, or have it inspected if you're not sure what to look for, before reassembly, and replace if necessary. You might have a better idea of what everything is supposed to look like if you take the other side apart, too.
I'm not the resident expert on '59's, but if your rear end is a typical floating axle type, that giant nut you see there is supposed to hold the hub in place and preload your wheel bearings. It seems when your bearings failed, the hub bypassed the nut and the entire assembly came off. I'm not sure if your hub and drum are one piece or if they are two, separate parts. I would be very wary of the hub being damaged, so inspect it closely, or have it inspected if you're not sure what to look for, before reassembly, and replace if necessary. You might have a better idea of what everything is supposed to look like if you take the other side apart, too.
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Hello and Welcome!
Do you have a Shop Manual for the truck? If not here is a link:
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Possibly, there's an exploded drawing of the axel in the shop manual to use as a guide, and a procedure to replace the bearings, retainer and grease seal.
Check your differential oil level too. Probably low or empty (that oils these bearings)
Do you have a Shop Manual for the truck? If not here is a link:
1959 Ford truck shop manual items - Get great deals on eBay Motors items on eBay.com!
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Possibly, there's an exploded drawing of the axel in the shop manual to use as a guide, and a procedure to replace the bearings, retainer and grease seal.
Check your differential oil level too. Probably low or empty (that oils these bearings)
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Thank for the warm welcomes!
Ok, so if I understand correctly since the axle and the hub came off all together then it was the outer bearing that gave out and allowed it so slip over that large nut that should have had to be removed.
Yes I did get a shop manual in the mail yesterday and the blow up doesn't really do justice, other than showing all the parts not order.
No I was trailered from its previous resting spot to the current. The tragic news is that now that I finally came into possession of it we get 4in of snow and no garage space...
Ok, so if I understand correctly since the axle and the hub came off all together then it was the outer bearing that gave out and allowed it so slip over that large nut that should have had to be removed.
Yes I did get a shop manual in the mail yesterday and the blow up doesn't really do justice, other than showing all the parts not order.
No I was trailered from its previous resting spot to the current. The tragic news is that now that I finally came into possession of it we get 4in of snow and no garage space...
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Unfortunately that is not a pic of a floating axle like a F-250 would have. I've got nothing on axles this new.
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In a nutshell, yes. But like I mentioned, be sure to closely inspect your hub to make sure there isn't anything more sinister involved.
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I am with 52 Merc. Nothing better than having a example to show how it is put together and what is broken/missing. You can verify the other side is in good condition or not. Since the wx is turning, pull parts and take them in side to inspect etc. chuck
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I agree with tearing the other side down as well. Then you'll know both sides are in good shape when your done. The place i'd look close at is where the outer bearing race base seats in the casting of hub. As well as being sure the race didn't turn and spin in the hub.
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Thanks for all the input. I do have a exploded view of it but it didn't really help me with where exactly the parts were. I think that I will end up tearing apart the good side and see what that one looks like which should tell me what is exactly wrong with the other side.
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