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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 07:57 PM
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So what if its been below the hose (aka empty) on one occasion for a day or two, is it just a matter of time before issues occur???
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by longview1
So what if its been below the hose (aka empty) on one occasion for a day or two, is it just a matter of time before issues occur???
no way I can know exactly how long it takes. I do know it is possibel to eat a hole in a front cover in less then 5k miles.
 
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Old Dec 7, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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front cover is an easy job of your tech has not done one by now I would be more nervous then him...
the issue with cavatited front covers is low coolant, if the pump sucks air thats whats gonna happen.
has noting to do with anything being **** poor, it has lots to do with the very high flow rate.
I am not nervous at all, truck is completely stock and has been dealer serviced throughout. Coolant has never been that low, so if Ford wants to dump money into her, go ahead. I wont keep it after the engine warranty expires...
I cant see a design that has this happen in 60000 kms as being much superior to **** poor!
I dont want to sound miserable, and I appreciate you taking the time to come on here and offer advice, but your comments to me were not constructive - you made me sound like I erred in maintaining my truck and that I should be nervous - no clue as to what your fear mongering motives may be???
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 07:25 AM
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I am not nervous at all, truck is completely stock and has been dealer serviced throughout. Coolant has never been that low, so if Ford wants to dump money into her, go ahead. I wont keep it after the engine warranty expires...
I cant see a design that has this happen in 60000 kms as being much superior to **** poor!
I dont want to sound miserable, and I appreciate you taking the time to come on here and offer advice, but your comments to me were not constructive - you made me sound like I erred in maintaining my truck and that I should be nervous - no clue as to what your fear mongering motives may be???
Wait a minute now, you jump in in the middle of a thread and get an answer from cheeseit who is probably the most knowledgable guy on the forum, then you get your underware all in a wad over the answer. I would say you're out of line. You said Ford maintains your truck, if that's so then you have no idea if the coolant has gone below the hose or not. You say it's **** poor parts, when you say that you are stepping on some toes around here, also if it was **** poor parts wouldn't all the trucks with those parts be having the problem? Relax and enjoy the forum, it has a lot to offer and what cheesit says is golden around here, check out his creds and value his input.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 08:30 AM
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Wait a minute now, you jump in in the middle of a thread and get an answer from cheeseit who is probably the most knowledgable guy on the forum, then you get your underware all in a wad over the answer. I would say you're out of line. You said Ford maintains your truck, if that's so then you have no idea if the coolant has gone below the hose or not. You say it's **** poor parts, when you say that you are stepping on some toes around here, also if it was **** poor parts wouldn't all the trucks with those parts be having the problem? Relax and enjoy the forum, it has a lot to offer and what cheesit says is golden around here, check out his creds and value his input.
X2 well put. We as owners need to take an active role in the maintance of the truck. I pop my hood weekly and at almost every fuel stop when towing.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by StanleyZ
Wait a minute now, you jump in in the middle of a thread and get an answer from cheeseit who is probably the most knowledgable guy on the forum, then you get your underware all in a wad over the answer. I would say you're out of line. You said Ford maintains your truck, if that's so then you have no idea if the coolant has gone below the hose or not. You say it's **** poor parts, when you say that you are stepping on some toes around here, also if it was **** poor parts wouldn't all the trucks with those parts be having the problem? Relax and enjoy the forum, it has a lot to offer and what cheesit says is golden around here, check out his creds and value his input.
An answer along the lines of me being nervous about taking my truck to get fixed at a FORD dealership is NO answer IMHO when the question was whether or not the procedure was cab on or off, and what could be done to prevent this failure again! I check my fluid levels regularly, but the dealership does the service. I am not sure your comment about me not knowing if its been low is intended as a slap in the face as well? I said the truck was dealer SERVICED, not MAINTAINED.
Sorry if you took offense, but my opinion about premature failure stays the same...sounds like there are lots of failures, as Cheezit sounded surprised that the technician at my dealership hasnt done one yet.
If you read back, I thanked the gentleman Cheezit for taking time to come on here and offer his knowledge and input to us owners. We are all passionate about our vehicles - if not, we wouldnt be on this website.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 09:08 AM
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X2 well put. We as owners need to take an active role in the maintance of the truck. I pop my hood weekly and at almost every fuel stop when towing.
I am not sure how you made the correlation between my comment that the dealership services the truck and me not checking fluid levels?
I am sorry if my comments offended anyone, but after watching the 6.0 fiasco I am a bit impatient. I dont deem replacing prematurely failed parts with the exact same part (sometimes in the hope of having it last past the warranty expiration then be on the owners bill??) as a satisfactory repair.
As an owner, I want to see a problem like this be addressed with a 2 part solution - replace the parts, and evaluate the cause and repair the condition so it doesnt replicate...otherwise the engines get a bad reputation and us owners take the financial blow to the old wallet because of lower than normal resale values...
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 09:50 AM
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X2 well put. We as owners need to take an active role in the maintance of the truck. I pop my hood weekly and at almost every fuel stop when towing.
Well i can say that my 2008 job 3 with 21,000 on it has started to lose coolant. My truck is totally stockand it isn't the radiator. I'm **** when it comes to maint on this thing, checking fluids every fuel stop. I change my own oil at 5k and fuel filters at 10k. There are alot of these trucks loosing coolant, fuel issues etc; I believe it is a design issue and Ford knows it, but eihter hasn't come up with a fix or doesn't want to. I believe everytime we come on here and make excuses for Ford that is a bad thing for us.
Think about the fact that Ford says the equivilant of 3 teaspoons of water in a 40 gal tank can void your warrenty?
sorry for the rant
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 06:53 PM
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sorry It was not ment to be rude to you at all.
That enigne has been around along while. the tech should have a very good idea of how to do a front cover by now. thats were that commit was directed. A quick view of the labor operation 6020a would tell him how it should be done because its not a 6007b operation. I understand that does not mean much to you and its still not a direct awnser to the cab on/ cab off question.
that repair is ment to be cab on.
for what its worth cab off for any part of a repair on a 6.4 is IMO also wasted time. I dont pull cabs. not worth it for me. not for engines or anything else.

so far as lack of maintace. I didnt go there....
the question of what causes it was asked. I supplied the only correct awnser I know of. Low coolant level.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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Thankyou for the information. It is very much appreciated. The senior diesel technician at the dealership I work with has resigned, and the second most experienced has now stepped up to the plate. He is qualified by Ford training standards, just a bit inexperienced IMHO.
I like having a java <> quick conversation with the people working on my truck (as well as any of the other equipment we operate). I try to be somewhat knowledgeable, albeit I am sometimes mistaken as being ****. This is usually because I am very fussy...
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 07:42 PM
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ford training is a great start. Its a lot of book work and hands on with an enigne that sits on a stand. figure the 6.4 was a 3 day class. thats 24 hours. cant cover a lot in that.
experance comes with time on the job. not from a classroom.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2010 | 07:58 PM
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coolant leaking

my 03 6.0 has done that since i bought it 3 yrs ago.it only looses anti freeze when it's 10 degrees or colder.i can't find the leak ,so i keep a 50x50 mix handy and just top her off.
 
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Old Dec 10, 2010 | 01:37 PM
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just had mine pressure tested and everything came out ok. I seem to loose a little coolant when i two my 12k trailer and load. Maybe 6-10 oz every 10k or so. Other than that it stays stable and my oil reports have been clean so far.
 
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