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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 09:20 PM
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I had a D50 TTB in the front of my 84 F250, it held up fine for me. I plow with it every winter and yank heavy trailers around all year long. I never broke anything on it, I put a couple sets of axle joints in and a new set of lockouts... like I said it help up fine for me. I did the D60 SAS because the TTB was eating tires up like crazy.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by aguitarestv
i stripped out the drivers side axle shaft. just driving down the road in 4wd
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Hmm, I wonder if something else was in rough shape, I've had all four wheels slipping on clean pavement moving a heavy GN trailer up a hill in 4L
If you're in 4WD on dry pavement you're just asking to break something.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 10:29 PM
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nope, not dry pavement. in the middle of a blizzard. only time i use 4x4, besides on some dirt roads to get to a fishing hole.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2011 | 10:52 PM
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wow! how the heck did i miss this for 3 months??

rust had nothing to do with it, since the truck was only 18 months old and only had 18,000 miles on it at the time the axle broke.
only reason asked was in AZ dont have rust issues !
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Pkupman82
I had a D50 TTB in the front of my 84 F250, it held up fine for me. I plow with it every winter and yank heavy trailers around all year long. I never broke anything on it, I put a couple sets of axle joints in and a new set of lockouts... like I said it help up fine for me. I did the D60 SAS because the TTB was eating tires up like crazy.
Mine gets worked super hard, 9' Fisher and plenty of work in the off season. I've never had a problem with tire wear once I set the alignment by the Factory service manual (set by ride height) versus the standard rule of thumb adjustments.

I do have a spare housing it turns out, my two bolts are tight and hanging on for dear life. I'll likely weld the broken one for now and put a truetrac in the other front housing, then swap it over.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by aguitarestv
nope, not dry pavement. in the middle of a blizzard. only time i use 4x4, besides on some dirt roads to get to a fishing hole.
My apologies!
 
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Old Jan 20, 2011 | 08:38 PM
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but when i did the the truck, i went to change the fluids when i hit 100k, in the front diff. i only pulled out about 1/2 quart (instead of the 2 that i should have) so maybe that help a little...but the rear diff. and transfer case were good.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 06:41 AM
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You boys like some crack?








 
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 09:39 AM
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When it warms up I'll definately pull the housing, reinforce it or replace it. I'd love to put a Truetrac in the front but it doesn't seem that one is listed for the Dana 50 TTB
 
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 11:16 AM
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I guess I've just been lucky, I'm on my 3rd truck w/ttb and had no problems.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 11:55 AM
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those cracks are caused from bottoming the suspension out ! are the spring bushings and bump stops warn out ?
 
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 12:00 PM
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Luckily I had a 5,000,000 ton hydraulic press and a lot of cutting torch time to reheat and reshape the housing after a lot of prep work.






A few more passes with the wire wheel before grabbing a fistful of 7018 rods, doing a bit of preheat/postheat to keep things from cracking.





Weld came out decent, heat was a little bit too high so I'd have to pause and clean the weld up before starting again, everything looks solid now though.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by cj06
those cracks are caused from bottoming the suspension out ! are the spring bushings and bump stops warn out ?
This truck hasn't had bump stops in a while, they rotted and fell off a long while back, with 3 leaf springs in the front, I'm not sure it could get down that far. I did have to extend the inner pivot brackets by 2 inches to get the geometry back in line.

As one of the earlier posters noted, its caused when the washers under the two bolts that secure into the diff carrier rust away and dissapear, leaving a few mm of play in the formed steel outer housing, then the cracks start. You can see in the pic the gap between the bolt head and the housing. Upper bolt is the same and there is the main stress crack going front to back and several lateral cracks, one short one hilited with a lame oval and another that runs all the way along the top rear corner under the spring.




 
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 03:19 PM
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well seems like rust does play a role the breakage ! excuse my stupidity for asking earlier !!
 
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Old Jan 21, 2011 | 04:40 PM
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Yes that is exactly what happen to mine, cracked in exactly the same places.

I didn't weld mine, could have but found a replacement arm including the pig with the same gearing for 200 bucks. Not worth saving that cracked arm for that and I needed the pig. Axle shaft tore up the seal/carrier area toward the end, just before it slid out dropping it to the ground. It had been caring the load for an hour or so at that point.

I didn't disasemble the right side to do it. Slid left side pig/arm assembly off the right side outer axle shaft at the slip joint, slid the replacement assembly on with it in place.

Couple new u bolts and a new center U joint (very easy to do while it's laying on the tail gate!) about an hour and a half it was ready to get back out plow snow again.
 
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