So I picked up my new 2010 F150 and first thing I realized is in Ford's great wisdom they incorporated the Radiator reservoir into the Air filter housing WTF I guess they must not want people to put Cold Air Intake Kits on these trucks.

 

Maybe Ford recognizes that you have already spent enough $ for the truck and you don't need to waste your $ for a warmer-air-than-stock-under-the-hood-bling intake that won't do squat?

Instead they want you to save that money for the worthless Navteq map updates.

 

Isn't the stock air intake already a "cold air intake" anyway? Of course it is. Buy a turbocharger instead for real performance improvement. Make it a TritonBoost...

 

I have a Banks Ram air intake off of my 2008 already which I wanted to re use on the 2010
and obviously you haven't tried the Banks. Ford stock (for 08 308 cfm Banks 500)

 

The kits are out there for the 10's. Just not as many as for the 08 and above. Airaid has one that does not require removal of the lower portion of the air cleaner so it retains the reservoir in the same place. I like the Banks for the 08, but don't think they have engineered one for the 09-10 yet.

You'll get all of the arguments to save your money, as the stock intake is as good as it gets. I agree that it flows well, just have a problem with the looks. I have always dressed up the engines of my vehicles, so I'll be putting on another intake sometime, just hoping for the Banks to be released soon.

 

I understand, but how much air does it need? Curious as to where you go the 308 CFM number. The flow tests I've seen show the stock set-up is capable of 621 CFM.

Flow Bench Test Results - Power Hungry Performance Forum

CFM= <ACRONYM title="Revolutions per Minute" sab="1144">RPM</ACRONYM> x DISPLACEMENT /3456 x VOLUMETRIC EFFICIENCY

Assuming a .90 volumetric efficiency and 4000 RPMs (most of us operate below 4000 RPMs more than 90% of the time).

CFM = 4000 x 330/3456 x .9 = 343.75 CFM

At 5500 RPMs, 472.656 CFM is needed.

If you like your intake; go for it. Your money, your truck.

If you're not sure, do your research before you invest in the under-the-hood-bling for your 09-10.

 

So it makes since that Banks would insure enough air is there for a WOT run. Pretty good. Hopefully they are working on an intake for the 2010.

Thanks for the numbers.

 

How often do you drive with no hood? Only time I pop the hood on any of my vehicles is when something needs to be done. That's a lot of scratch to lay down on something just for looks when it is one of the worst places to enjoy the visual appeal of something.

I can understand wheels and tires more then I can just doing an intake for looks, although I'm not a fan of spending any more money then I have to for wheels and tires. It's your money and if it makes you happy more power to you, I just don't understand the logic behind it especially on something that is going to be a premium like the Banks intake.

In general about performance of intakes and flowing more. It isn't just the mere fact on if they flow more then stock, it's when they flow more then stock. If it flows more on the downswing of the HP/TQ curve then what good is it to you?

 

Since you admit that you don't understand the logic. Why post a negative comment. If you don't agree, that's fine. But what did you accomplish? Nothing. If you were talking to a 16 year old kid with his first car, maybe your opinion might be useful. But consider your comment was directed to a man that has lived over half a century, and owned vehicles dating back to 1963. The majority of which have all had custom tires, wheels, and a whole variety of engines, transmissions, and suspension modifications for street and off road.

It's obvious that you have never spent an afternoon helping a friend install a set of headers in his hot rod chevy. Or took apart a carb just to see how it's made, all in the name of fun. Maybe you don't go to car shows and see what car nuts do to their machines, just for ideas. You don't look at an automobile as a work of art, or appreciate the hard work an owner has put into a beautiful machine. Have you ever just looked under the hood of an automobile just to see how it's put together? Do you look at an engine and wonder what the engineers would have done if the bean counters in the company hadn't have put constraints on them?

Your comment disrespects the hard work and dreams of the greats in automotive history that are still out there living the dream. Those like Banks, Edlebrock, Roush, Saleen, and a generation of others as well as the greatest automotive designer of all time, (in my opinion) Chip Foose. He understands the "bling" under the hood.

There are hundreds on this website alone that know exactly what I am talking about. They are the ones that come on the site to share knowledge, and a passion for automobiles, especially their trucks.

We use our trucks for work and play. We use them as a hobby, because we would rather clean a dirty engine than sit and read a book. We have spent hours polishing a wheel, or the alum cover on a street bike. We don't wear our "bling" around our necks, it's on our truck. We look at our vehicles as a work in progress. Always feeling the need to do something to make it unique. To put our brand on it.

So whether it's the guy with the 32 roadster that he spent 5 years building, or the kid with the lowered Honda with the loud exhaust, that he spent his paycheck from McDonald's just to buy that muffler, there are those of us that just love automobiles. We have our old "Hot Rod" magazines in boxes, along with photographs of our beloved first car.

It's understandable that you don't understand the logic, because it's not logical.

Good luck to you.

 

I've always been a fan of the stuff that AEM makes once they came out with thier dry flow filter.

If I were to spring for an intake, it would probably be an AEM brute force ..... but they don't have one for the '09 +.

After reading this thread, I better understand why.

Any one done a "Gott's" style mod to the existing air box yet?

 

ehh.... i dont know bout that.... i know him pretty well and have met him on a couple of different occasions and that is not how he is... hell look at his 6.0 powerstroke... if im not mistaken it makes over 500 horses maybe 600 if my memory serves me correct...

and i'm with him on the point that it dont make any since... theres no use to a CAI... the only reason you need more air for the engine than a stock setup is if theirs an increased need for it after an increased need for more fuel with is, internal mods to the engine... just an exhaust wont make a difference. maybe a tune might... MIGHT... just depends on how wild of a tune...

my 92 Flareside is gonna be making right at or over 300 hp and almost 400 torque when i get it done in the next month or so, and well im gonna be using a stock intake... and it's gonna be just fine..

 

You are right I've never installed headers.

What I have done however is installed turbos, injectors, fuel pumps, RR kits, exhausts. I have designed vehicle wraps and other graphics, been apart of the installations of those as well.

I have spent numerous times at the dynos, hopefully be able to go to one on the 4th of December at a local hot rod diesel shop. Both behind the computer as well as behind the wheel on those dyno runs.

I would be very careful on your assumptions as it is obvious that you don't know my proclivities as they relate to this hobby.

As to the people that i have supposedly disrespected, I look at objective data, if that data shows that something isn't kosher I'm going to mention it, i don't care who the manufacture is as that is irrelevant as to whether or not a product is good.

I might also add that just because something worked on past vehicles doesn't mean that it will work on current vehicles. I can give you numerous examples within the diesel world especially as that is what I am most familiar with.

 

i am laughing right about now.....

 

7hp gain with a custom tune (Edge/Gryphon):
http://www.f150online.com/forums/2009-2011-f-150/360079-initial-dyno-results-2009-a.html

09-10 Gotts mod:
http://www.f150online.com/forums/200...010-model.html

http://www.f150online.com/forums/200...2010-f150.html

http://www.f150online.com/forums/200...10-models.html

And if you're considering the Volant A/M intake:

http://www.f150online.com/forums/2009-2011-f-150/431882-volant-air-system-review-loss.html

 

i did the Gott's mod a few months ago. I'm not going to lie i didnt' seem to notice anything at all... the intake wasn't louder and i didn't feel any increased power or response.