Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

Ford 8.8 axle strength

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 18, 2010 | 07:40 PM
  #1  
BlueOvalBud's Avatar
BlueOvalBud
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,389
Likes: 0
From: Massachusetts
Ford 8.8 axle strength

Hey fellas,
I'm wondering what the opinions are on the strength of the 8.8 rear axle.
Also, what spline shafts would my 8.8 have in my 95 F150?

From google searches, I've learned the 8.8 has the following to offer...
-8.8" ring gear diameter (uh...duh)
-1.625" diameter pinion shaft (9" is 1.313" for comparison)
-Actually lighter and slightly stronger than a 9"
-The tubes like to spin in the center section under heavy stress, weld the tubes and you're good to go
-The diff. cover is referred to as tin foil, heavy aftermarket covers are available.
-Axle shafts are 1.31" diameter
-C-clip axle retention method
-The carries is weak under stress, replace with a full-carrier Detroit or weld the carrier

Judging from the search, they seem to be stronger than a Dana 44 as far as specs go. Some have had issues with 31's, while others are successfully running 36's with welded tubes and full-carrier Detroit's.

For my needs, I'd like to beef up this axle to withstand the abuse of towing approximately 6k pounds, running 31" tires, 4x4 truck pulls a few times each fall, some wheel spin in the dirt, and doing all this living behind a stock 352 FE (but may get some attention someday)

What have other FTE members done to their 8.8's?
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2010 | 07:47 PM
  #2  
BlueOvalBud's Avatar
BlueOvalBud
Thread Starter
|
Posting Guru
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,389
Likes: 0
From: Massachusetts
I'll also add that I read that Dana named their axles by the maximum tire size.
For example, Dana 44 maximum tire size is 44" and Dana 30 max tire size is 30".
Since the bearngs, axle shafts, and tubes of the 8.8 are significantly larger than the Dana 44, I'd say the 8.8 can handle a large tire.

This link has some excellent information.
8.8 Axle Facts and Swap info - Ford Explorer Ranger Enthusiasts "Serious Explorations"®
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2010 | 08:55 PM
  #3  
strokin'_tatsch's Avatar
strokin'_tatsch
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 10,008
Likes: 7
From: Austin, TX
Mine is getting welded tubes, Detroit, JBG or Moser axle shafts, 4.10 gears, TA Performance girdle or Mag Hytec cover, and maybe a couple other little odds and ends. It is behind a pepped up 302, has 33" tires, will be abused as a DD, mudding, mild rock crawling, etc.
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2010 | 09:04 PM
  #4  
Mudsport96's Avatar
Mudsport96
Logistics Pro
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,716
Likes: 583
From: Chillicothe
Well truck wise I know a few guys runnin 35s on stock 8.8s. And we run a 1300hp fox body on 8.8 with strange axles and spool.. tubes not welded and it holds up to a 4000 stall off the trans brake so in any stock truck I don't see you breakin it lol
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2010 | 09:06 PM
  #5  
Mudsport96's Avatar
Mudsport96
Logistics Pro
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,716
Likes: 583
From: Chillicothe
Oh and get rid if the crush sleeve on the pinion. Take it out and measure it then have a piece of aluminum machined to replace it. Heavy loads can cause it to crush more and leave slop in the pinion bearing
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2010 | 09:44 PM
  #6  
strokin'_tatsch's Avatar
strokin'_tatsch
Hotshot
15 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 10,008
Likes: 7
From: Austin, TX
Originally Posted by Mudsport96
Oh and get rid if the crush sleeve on the pinion. Take it out and measure it then have a piece of aluminum machined to replace it. Heavy loads can cause it to crush more and leave slop in the pinion bearing
something like this? Two Piece Solid Spacer

I planned on using that instead of the crush sleeve.
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2010 | 10:06 PM
  #7  
BearFootCustom's Avatar
BearFootCustom
Elder User
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 786
Likes: 0
From: Up Up Upstate, NY
Originally Posted by BlueOvalBud
I'd also like to add that I read that Dana named their axles by the maximum tire size.
For example, Dana 44 maximum tire size is 44" and Dana 30 max tire size is 30".
Since the bearngs, axle shafts, and tubes of the 8.8 are significantly larger than the Dana 44, I'd say the 8.8 can handle a large tire.

This link has some excellent information.
8.8 Axle Facts and Swap info - Ford Explorer Ranger Enthusiasts "Serious Explorations"®

Thanks for saying how Dana named thier axles, pretty interesting
 
Reply
Old Nov 18, 2010 | 10:38 PM
  #8  
Mudsport96's Avatar
Mudsport96
Logistics Pro
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2010
Posts: 3,716
Likes: 583
From: Chillicothe
Originally Posted by strokin'_tatsch
something like this? Two Piece Solid Spacer

I planned on using that instead of the crush sleeve.
Yep. I usually setup the rearend then pull it apart to get the exact measurement but imbsure that's good enough
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

 Brett Foote
story-7

Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Nov 19, 2010 | 02:14 AM
  #9  
hav24wheel's Avatar
hav24wheel
FTE Chapter Leader
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 11,273
Likes: 100
From: North Dakota
Club FTE Silver Member

Originally Posted by BearFootCustom
Thanks for saying how Dana named thier axles, pretty interesting
NOi, NO, NO!!!!!!!!!! Dana DID NOT name there axles like that! A D44, can not handle a 44 inch tire, 35 is almost the max on a stock D44 A D60 can not handle a 60 inch tire. If it could, why do I keep breaking mine with 44s on it!? You can't take everything you read as Fact. I wouldn't think a 8.8 is stronger than a 9 inch. Mainly due to the 9 having a 3rd bearing on the pinion.
 
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2010 | 04:42 AM
  #10  
lew52's Avatar
lew52
Postmaster
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 4,558
Likes: 2
It will have 31 spline axles , i use the 8.8 with the tubes welded , detriot true trac , 456 gears , superior alloy axels with 3in hardend studs with long open end lugs , trickflow cover with girdle , with 315-60-15 drag radials for 2 years with no problems , they hold up very well....Lew
 
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2010 | 04:49 AM
  #11  
cj06's Avatar
cj06
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,006
Likes: 2
From: CASA GRANDE AZ
Originally Posted by BlueOvalBud
I'd also like to add that I read that Dana named their axles by the maximum tire size.
For example, Dana 44 maximum tire size is 44" and Dana 30 max tire size is 30".
Since the bearngs, axle shafts, and tubes of the 8.8 are significantly larger than the Dana 44, I'd say the 8.8 can handle a large tire.

This link has some excellent information.
8.8 Axle Facts and Swap info - Ford Explorer Ranger Enthusiasts "Serious Explorations"®
any 44 inch tire would tare a dana 44 apart !! and if that was true then would a dana 60 be good for a 60 inch tire , d70 for a 70 inch tire and how about a dana 80 = 80inch tire ?? what kind of lift kit would that require ??

the 8.8 r&p is beefier than a 9 inch is and in stock form stronger IMO
 
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2010 | 09:42 AM
  #12  
BearFootCustom's Avatar
BearFootCustom
Elder User
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 786
Likes: 0
From: Up Up Upstate, NY
Haha wow thats funny
 
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2010 | 09:56 AM
  #13  
cj06's Avatar
cj06
Posting Guru
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,006
Likes: 2
From: CASA GRANDE AZ
Originally Posted by BearFootCustom
Haha wow thats funny
what do you exactly mean ?
 
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2010 | 01:01 PM
  #14  
BearFootCustom's Avatar
BearFootCustom
Elder User
Joined: Feb 2009
Posts: 786
Likes: 0
From: Up Up Upstate, NY
That I believed it!
 
Reply
Old Nov 19, 2010 | 01:32 PM
  #15  
andym's Avatar
andym
Post Fiend
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Shutterbug
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 19,402
Likes: 38
From: Bonita Springs FL
Yeah, that's one of the dumber things I've heard. Be careful what you believe from google searches.

A 8.8" is not stronger than an 9". No way, not even close.
 
Reply



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:54 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 10:59:05


VIEW MORE
story-2
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Most Expensive Ford Trucks Ever Sold on Bring a Trailer

Slideshow: 10 most expensive Ford trucks ever sold on Bring a Trailer.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:24:34


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Ford Super Duty Buyer's Guide (Every Model, Engine, & Package)

Here's everything that has changed for the latest model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-27 16:17:28


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Truck Tragedies

Slideshow: Top 10 Ford truck tragedies.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-18 19:34:33


VIEW MORE
story-6
AEV FXL Super Duty - the Super Duty Raptor Ford Doesn't Make

And it might be even better than that.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-18 19:26:42


VIEW MORE
story-7
Lobo Vs Lobo: Proof the F-150 Lobo Should Be Even Lower!

Slideshow: Does lowering an F-150 Lobo RUIN the ride quality?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-18 19:20:37


VIEW MORE
story-8
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE