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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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my 89 bronco 351 died while she was driving 55 on the highway, towed it home. the distributor rotor doesnt spin while im cranking it over but im also not getting a pulsating spark off the coil. The rotor looks like its shot, but before I start replacing things Im curious if a non spinning rotor definetly means a broken timing chain? Im new to the online auto help and any answers would be greatly appreciated
 
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 10:07 PM
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could be a seized up oil pump

did it back fire or any thing when it died
 
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 10:21 PM
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i wasnt driving she said there was some weird clanking noise and it just died. the oil gauge has been acting funny but i figured a bad sending unit. its not driven that much so i really havent been keeping up on this truck. im just trying to figure out for sure before i start pulling stuff apart. would a bad oil pump keep the rotor from turning? and i pulled the distributor just now the pins are ok the rotor turns with the gear
 
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 10:29 PM
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look at the end of the distributor and get a bit driver the same size and see if you can turn the pump buy hand and the check the cam out with a flat nose driver see if you can turn that gear if so chains broken you should not be able to turn the cam with a driver
 
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 10:46 PM
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end of the distributor is the gear
 
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 10:55 PM
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my bad now i see what your saying
 
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 10:56 PM
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the very end of it looks like a 1/4 inch socket unles the long allen wrench looking thing came out with it but if the sheare pins are in tacked you should get a punch and knock it out to see if that is realy the case some times they brake but eveything looks normal
 
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 11:06 PM
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i dont know what you mean by turning the cam with a flat nose driver? i cant get any torque on it. ive checked the distributor and i believe (cause no matter what i do the rotor and gear move together) its ok. got a extension and im gonna try to turn the pump if i can get at it in the dark. thanks i dread a t-chain break
 
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 11:25 PM
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it could very well be a cogg broke off your cam but if you get it pulled down that far you should concider a new cam
 
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 11:26 PM
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got a 5/16 on there and it seems to be turning freely that sucks ill make sure tommorrow. the driver end is for the oil pump and the gear is off the camshaft? right?
 
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 11:27 PM
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right well good luck
 
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 11:32 PM
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just read your last reply and yes if i get it torn down that far it will get a lot of new stuff, 351 and all, but will a siezed oil pump stop the rotor rotation? i think ill pull off the valve covers tommorrow and see whats going on under there when i turn it over
 
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 11:35 PM
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sounds like a plan
 
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 11:51 PM
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If you wan to know what has happened in there, pull the timing cover!
 
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 12:35 AM
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yes if i have to ill pull it apart. but if the distributor is good... no broken shear pins... rotor doesnt turn is that definitively a broken timing belt? give me a whole bunch off reasons>>> oil pump, broken crankshaft(id have to pull the engine anyway) tell me its the ignition coil ?????????? or my plugs n wires?????????? maybe the flux capacitor???? actually my 4 year old really thinks its the flux capacitor shame on me! ive run all the ohm n volt tests what im not sure of is why the rotor wont turn. i cant pull off the oil pan without lifting the motor and im not sure about the timing chain cover got to pull at least the water pump is there a way to know without seeing the chain? im still not getting any pulsating spark off the ignition coil even after pulling the icm and ignition coil off a (very hesitant) neighbors truck after i put all his stuff back together his truck still runs fine. wiring harness? anything but a broken t-chain come on its a ford there chains last forever....right ???????????
 
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