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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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Question Putting her back together

So I am starting a new thread because my last thread had pictures that were so large you had to scroll to read the thing.

I am putting the head back on after replacing the lifter hold down - bend push tube sliced a piece of the side - new head gasket, and new push tubes.

My wife was kind enough to come help drive the engine hoist, but when walking around it she accidentally kicked the box that I had the rocker arms and valve bridges on.

Everything is marked as far as location is concerned, but what I did not mark was the orientation of the bridges. They all have a 609 on one end and a C3 on the other. Turn them upside down and there is a circle slot on one end and an oval slot on the other.

I not going to assume it doesnt make a difference until I hear so.

Thanks for any help.

Does it matter which way they go onto the valves?
 
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 07:18 PM
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if you look at the bottom of the bridges one hole is round one is oval. the rond hole goes closist to the intake. but it does not make a big differance
 
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:20 PM
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Thanks Cheezit - I'll make sure they are right and then give her a spin by hand to make sure everything is working right.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 04:49 PM
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Question How hard should it be to hand turn crank

So I have taken all of the glow plugs out of the RH head - no Injectors or glow plugs in the LH head. Trying to be good and rotate the damper locating dowl notch to the 6 Oclock position. I can get it froom the 12 Oclock position to about the 4 Oclock position.

What am I missing? Truck is in Neutral - but did not have it there until truck was off and torn apart.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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Thanks Cheezit - I'll make sure they are right and then give her a spin by hand to make sure everything is working right.
Do you mean the wife or the engine?????
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 06:23 PM
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did you have the heads decked? you can try removing the push tubes and roate the engine that would keep the valve from opening. that would tell you if you had either mis built gaskets or something in a cyclinder if it turns over that way. if it turns over with the tubes out its would be a valve or lifter issue.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 07:15 PM
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I dont even have the rockers or studs in yet on the LH side. just rotating to the 6 oclock position before I install them as it indicates to in the manual. Are you saying that I need to pull the RH head cover and pull the rockers on that side?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 07:16 PM
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thats what Im saying. did you have the heads decked?
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 07:31 PM
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I took them into the shop - they cleaned them up, said they were still good and within specs, put in new seals.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 07:34 PM
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being that you only have one head on.... remove the glow plugs and see what piston is heating the top of its stroke when it locks up. that info will also help you.
turn it over the other direction as well and make sure it stops in the same place.

As I said before I do this before I torque my heads. I put the bolts in at 65ft lb. then spin the engine.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 08:02 PM
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I have no way to tell what cylinder is at TDC on RH with the glow plugs out. Cant see in - will have to take the blower and condensor back out in the morning. And at that point I might as well pull the valve cover and rockers. I guess its a good thing I have ARP studs and not TTY bolts.

I guess at that point if I have issues with the valves, I'll have a talk with the machine shop.

Thanks Cheezit - WIll let you know what is happening.
 
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oddly enugh all you have to do is stick a screwdriver in the glowplug holes to know wich one is at the top.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 01:10 PM
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So I have pulled the evaporator core housing, Valve cover and HP oil rail. Stuck a screw drive in the glow plug holes. Feels like #1 is close to top, # 3 is not far behind, #5 and #7 couldnt touch.

Should I release all head studs and pull all rockers at once or should I do one rocker at a time to see if I have issues with push tubes and try to rotate each time?
 
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I would pull the suspect push tubes first. that will narrow down to what cyclinder is the issue. the more you can rule out the better you will be.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 03:10 PM
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Pulled all push tubes - 1 rocker at a time. No bends, no more rotation. Pull the heads?
 
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