Putting her back together
Post Fiend
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From: N. Fort Worth, tx
yup. if all the push rods are out and it still wont spin you either have a gasket issue, bent rod or something hitting the deck that fell in the motor.
sorry this is sucking so bad but at least you checked first before it was all together.
sorry this is sucking so bad but at least you checked first before it was all together.
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From: SoCal
Got the right head off. Everything looks normal. Nothing in the cylinders, no scoring on the cylinder walls or on the heads of the pistons. Deck looks clean and normal. Gasket doesnt apprear to have been hit or torn up.
I guess I take the left head back off and look there as well.
I guess I take the left head back off and look there as well.
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From: SoCal
First date BPofMD - And she is making me pay.
So, maybe I'm just not strong enough, or wasnt - Took both heads off. Everything looks good, Pistons, Cylinders, Decks.
Snuck underneath, it turned about a quarter turn, went then other way and she went all the way around - twice!
So - Got the damper locating dowl notch at the 6 oclock position and will put the heads back on and then make sure that I can spin it again at least a couple of times.
Any suggestions before I start putting it back together again?
So, maybe I'm just not strong enough, or wasnt - Took both heads off. Everything looks good, Pistons, Cylinders, Decks.
Snuck underneath, it turned about a quarter turn, went then other way and she went all the way around - twice!
So - Got the damper locating dowl notch at the 6 oclock position and will put the heads back on and then make sure that I can spin it again at least a couple of times.
Any suggestions before I start putting it back together again?
Post Fiend
Joined: Oct 2009
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From: N. Fort Worth, tx
yup one.... prey it goes well this time.
put one head on torq it to the FIRST spec. then turn the engine over.
then set the other head and do the same.
if the engine turns over fine then go to town torqing them down
put one head on torq it to the FIRST spec. then turn the engine over.
then set the other head and do the same.
if the engine turns over fine then go to town torqing them down
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From: SoCal
Would you replace Ford head gaskets if they had no time on them but were torqued down and then removed? - Black Onyx are basically the same multilayed gaskets as the fords (5 layers), but the adhesive layer (blue on the ford gaskets) is black and it covers the entire surface of the gaskets.
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From: Stuttgart, Ar
Considering you're having a clearance issue I'd use the OLD gaskets to check for interference before replacing them with NEW gaskets. I know it's a lot of extra work, but it's better than tearing up valves, pushrods, and pistons. Considering all the issues with headgaskets/heads on these motors I would NOT rely on "old" gaskets to seal the heads even if they had never been run. I have seen the black onyx gaskets be out of round in the cylinder hole area.
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From: SoCal
Considering you're having a clearance issue I'd use the OLD gaskets to check for interference before replacing them with NEW gaskets. I know it's a lot of extra work, but it's better than tearing up valves, pushrods, and pistons. Considering all the issues with headgaskets/heads on these motors I would NOT rely on "old" gaskets to seal the heads even if they had never been run. I have seen the black onyx gaskets be out of round in the cylinder hole area.