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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 10:08 PM
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4.9 liter oil preference

Hi all, my first post, and proud Ford Owner...
I recently bought a 1996 Ford F150 with a 4.9 6 cylinder 4 speed manual. I want to change oil and due some basic maintanence. What have you guys found to be the best (to use)/ or worst (to stay away from) oil to use in this engine? I plan on changing rear end oil as well, again ,any thing to stay away from or what brands are recommended? This truck has 184,000 miles and runs really good. Truck is on ok, shape, body rot here and there but runs like a champ.

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Robb

1996 F150 184,000 miles
2002 Explorer 84,000 miles
2001 Excursion 116,000 miles
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 02:42 AM
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I would run conventional oil in 10w30 or 10w40. Just use Pennzoil or Valvoline. You could also consider running the high mileage stuff. I run Pennzoil high mileage in the copper bottle. My truck has over 280,000 miles on the original drivetrain.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 09:48 AM
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I run Rotella T 15w40 diesel oil in my 300 and it seems to run pretty good. I do it for the detergent quality required in diesel oil plus the extra zinc content. Oil quality has come so far over the last 10-15 years...you can pretty much buy anything and not have to worry about it in an old truck.

At your mileage, I would probably stay away from a synthetic, as the degergents will probably clean out some of the sludge inside and cause external oil leaks. May not happen, but if it does you're stuck with a leaky truck. I had it happen to me in an old camaro.

Get a decent filter too. Motorcraft filters are pretty basic and get the job done. I prefer WIX filters on everything I own. Don't use fram filters unless you get the high dollar one. The cheaper ones have cardboard parts in them which are known to fail and cause oiling issues for the valvetrain. At the point you're paying $8 for a high quality fram, you can have a cheaper motorcraft or wix filter that is better quality.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 10:52 AM
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I agree about using FL1A oil filters, thats all I run. Wix and Purolator are good too. Stay away from Fram. The same is true of air filters.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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I own a 95' F250, I use both motorcraft filters and oil and i run pretty good.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 01:08 PM
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I use royal purple in everything I own and K&N Filters.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 01:54 PM
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They actually just did a test on the leading oils and wal marts super tech topped penzoil, valvoline, shell, and all the other leading brands. My jaw dropped. But I run shell rotella 15w40 in my 4.9
 
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by iamme81702
I use royal purple in everything I own and K&N Filters.
I wouldn't run either of those. KN just plain sucks. From everything I have seen Royal Purple oil is just too thin and watery. I know people that have had issues with that stuff.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 04:43 PM
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i run 10w30 amsoil with a napa gold filter, and go 5k miles on oil service.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Duct Tape Racing
They actually just did a test on the leading oils and wal marts super tech topped penzoil, valvoline, shell, and all the other leading brands. My jaw dropped. But I run shell rotella 15w40 in my 4.9

really? is there an article online that you can share? thats crazy
 
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 08:49 PM
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Don't they spec 5W-30 for the 4.9?

If so, would run that. My 5.8 calls for 5W-30, but I had been using 10W-30. Last oil change I switched to 5W-30, and it seems to start easier. I'm going to start using 5W-30 in my car too, at least for the winter.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by TexasGuy001
I wouldn't run either of those. KN just plain sucks. From everything I have seen Royal Purple oil is just too thin and watery. I know people that have had issues with that stuff.
K&N Oil Filters are overpriced, but they are actually a VERY good filter. This is actually a relabeled Mobil 1 filter with a nut welded on the end. I'd say just get the mobil 1 instead because the nut takes up extra space.

FWIW I run only Purolator PureOne filters on my vehicles.
 
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 94MustangGT
Don't they spec 5W-30 for the 4.9?

If so, would run that. My 5.8 calls for 5W-30, but I had been using 10W-30. Last oil change I switched to 5W-30, and it seems to start easier. I'm going to start using 5W-30 in my car too, at least for the winter.
Keep in mind that Oils with a high difference between the cold and hot viscosity do not last as long. Multiweight oils contain super long polymers that stretch out as they get warm, thus getting thicker as the rest of the oil gets thinner. The polymers are so long that they get broken by shearing forces in the engine.

So... the higher concentration of polymer will break down faster because there is more of them to break. So if you do plan on running 5w-30 (factor of 6), change your oil every 3k miles max. 10w-30 (factor of 3) has half of the polymer content that 5w-30 has and doesn't' break down as fast.
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 12:10 AM
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i run 10w-40 mobil1 and motorcraft filters 136,000
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 02:17 AM
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You need to run Shell Rotella 15/40. 5/30, 10/30, or 10/40 will not do the job, and it's not because of the viscosity, it's the zinc dialkyldithiophosphate (ZDDP) content that's lacking in conventional off-the-shelf motor oil.

Here's some quality reading on the topic from an unlikely source: The Economist
Tribology: The Difference Engine: All change, oil change | The Economist

This is true of all engines that use a flat-tappet cam, which every one of the mighty I-6's did. Modern stuff off the shelf will rapidly wipe the lobes off your cam.

It's not really a Rotella thing, Chevron's Delo will do the job as will Mobil's Delvac product. It's all about the ZDDP, just like "91chevywt" said. With the proper oil you'll have that truck for years without any problems at all- it's the best engine anybody ever put in a 1/2 ton pickup truck.
 
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