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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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I recently serviced my differential on the front axle. I switched into 4x4 today and when turning, the truck has severe crabbing, as in the whole truck shakes. The harder the turn, the worse it gets. I didn't keep it in 4x4 very long (only had to get out of the grass) but it felt like the entire front end was lifting and then dropping. I actually think it was doing the same thing when I test drove the truck but i tested the 4x4 on sandy soil so it was not as noticeable. On the dry pavement it is VERY noticeable.

When I serviced the differential I used Royal Purple Max Gear 75w 140. The front axle is the standard one for the truck (Dana 50 I think?). Any thoughts on what to do / check / test ? I'm at a bit of a loss on this one.

UPDATE - I used the RP and did not add any friction modifier as it has it in it already. The fact it may have been doing it prior to purchase does make me think it's something else.

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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 02:15 PM
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Sounds like one or more of your front u-joints have bound up.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 02:21 PM
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Sounds like one or more of your front u-joints have bound up.

Forgive me, I'm new at this issue. If the u-joints are bound up, would they be "frozen" in place? I'm not quite sure I'm getting it. If you could explain that would be great.

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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by JPs2003
Forgive me, I'm new at this issue. If the u-joints are bound up, would they be "frozen" in place? I'm not quite sure I'm getting it. If you could explain that would be great.

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Just for reference purposes, I had a U joint bind on my front axle and it did some scary things. If you are experiencing random shifting of steering after taking a turn, or extreme pulling, I would encourage you to go have your front end checked. This would happen to me in 2 wheel drive too...which I thought was odd, but when I replaced it, I never had the issue again.

The bouncing and binding in 4x4 is pretty normal because we have solid axles, idealy if you are using 4x4 you are using it in a situation where the ground is slippery enough that it does not matter. This is my theory, but I could be wrong...it has happened before....
 
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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If you were on hard surface, it sounds normal.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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Sounds like miss-matched gears to me... I would pull both covers and run the #'s on the ring gears
 
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 05:03 PM
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Sounds like OP was on a hard surface trying to turn in 4x4. It's entirely normal to have things bind up and jerk around in 4x4 on a hard surface.

If it did that in mud or snow or another loose surface then I'd be concerned.


On dry pavement the front end will bind up with just the hubs engaged nevermind the transfer case actually being engaged.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2010 | 07:23 PM
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Unjoints do sound like the problem, but on another note I dont think that 75/140 is the right weight for the front axle. I could be wrong but I am pretty sure you are supposed to use 90 weight up front. Forgive me if I am wrong.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2010 | 06:32 PM
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thanks for the replies. I'll check the weight requirement as i'm going to replace the inner seals when i do the ball joints.

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As stated the 4x4 is not designed to be used on dry pavement, in fact it usually don't like wet pavement either. It is designed for slick, slippery, and traction challenged surfaces. If it was on dry pavement it sounds normal. Was the grass dry or slick?
 
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by truckeemtnfords
As stated the 4x4 is not designed to be used on dry pavement, in fact it usually don't like wet pavement either. It is designed for slick, slippery, and traction challenged surfaces. If it was on dry pavement it sounds normal. Was the grass dry or slick?
Grass was dry and the sandy soil as well. I should get the U joints today and I'll need to plan on when to do the job. I need to order all of the front seals (inner axle, dust, o-rings, etc) Anyone offering a kit with all of them or will I be at the local dealership for them?

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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by truckeemtnfords
As stated the 4x4 is not designed to be used on dry pavement, in fact it usually don't like wet pavement either. It is designed for slick, slippery, and traction challenged surfaces. If it was on dry pavement it sounds normal. Was the grass dry or slick?
4x4 is fine on dry pavement so long as you're not trying to turn. 4x4 is GREAT for launches at the drag strip. The 2wd trucks are still spinning tires while the 4x4 trucks are already halfway down the track. But that's a different type of situation and you are correct in that it wasn't designed for use there... but it works great.
 
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