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Old Nov 8, 2010 | 03:47 AM
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Spartan Update

Just completed another trip with the Spartan and am still as impressed as the day I installed it. I towed home my new toy (65 Mustang), roughly a 750km trip of fairly flat driving with some moderate hills along the way and a combined weight of around 5000lb for car and trailer. I always run my truck on the 275 tune and keep a close eye on all gauges while doing so. I set my cruise on 70 mph and didn't look back the entire way home. Now I know that is not much weight to pull for these trucks but I had TONS of power for passing and the truck handled the hills like they weren't even there. Hand calculated mileage when I got home came out at 15 MPG. I have been running the Spartan set up for 73,000km now and am still impressed with how my truck performs. I still consistently get 17-18 MPG (Hand Calculated) unloaded and that is at 80-85 MPH, not bad for an 8000lb truck that will smoke most vehicles off the line!!
 
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Old Nov 11, 2010 | 06:55 PM
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what gives? my spartan with a 250 tune at 65 mph only gives me 10-11 with 6000 lbs in tow. can i buy your cpu from the truck. :-]
 
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Old Nov 12, 2010 | 01:25 AM
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I think that has a lot to do with the inconsistency of these trucks. I've heard stories of guys getting 20 MPG stock and other guys who get 9 MPG stock and those are both unloaded on the highway. And I hear the exact same stories from the guys that are running tuners, it seems it's impossible to get anything consistent with these motors. It's unfortunate that the tuner didn't work as well for you but I guess that's just the way it goes, believe me if I had a secret I'd pass it along.
 
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Old Nov 13, 2010 | 02:13 PM
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Or perhaps the actual load being towed. For instance, I don't think if you take identically configured trucks, one towing 5000lbs of car and trailer and the other towing a 5000lb travel trailer, that the fuel mileage will come out the same. Wind resistance (aerodynamics) can play a large role....
 
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RUFFSTUFF
Or perhaps the actual load being towed. For instance, I don't think if you take identically configured trucks, one towing 5000lbs of car and trailer and the other towing a 5000lb travel trailer, that the fuel mileage will come out the same. Wind resistance (aerodynamics) can play a large role....
Good point.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 05:56 PM
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thats a givin but what doesnt explain is identicle trucks getting 4-5 mpgs different without a trailer. i could see 1-3 but not more than that.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 07:39 PM
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Technique perhaps? Terrain, I always get poor mileage but in the rockies I got really poor mileage. Tires and wheels, maybe, And the one that really impacts me, surface wind.
 
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Old Nov 14, 2010 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RUFFSTUFF
Or perhaps the actual load being towed. For instance, I don't think if you take identically configured trucks, one towing 5000lbs of car and trailer and the other towing a 5000lb travel trailer, that the fuel mileage will come out the same. Wind resistance (aerodynamics) can play a large role....
That would play a role in the mileage difference when towing but it does not explain the differences in MPG while unloaded on the highway. And I know driving habits will be a big part of that but I definately DO NOT baby my truck and I get good results. I know guys that drive alot slower than me and are lighter on the throttle and they can't get close to the mileage I get. That is the part that remains a mystery to most of us.
 
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Old Nov 15, 2010 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Brandon D
That would play a role in the mileage difference when towing but it does not explain the differences in MPG while unloaded on the highway. And I know driving habits will be a big part of that but I definately DO NOT baby my truck and I get good results. I know guys that drive alot slower than me and are lighter on the throttle and they can't get close to the mileage I get. That is the part that remains a mystery to most of us.
indeed! it's interesting to see everyone's mileage reports. Although mine vary enough in different conditions (wind, hills, etc...) that it almost seems like I've got 2 different trucks! So it's hard to pin down exactly what kind of mileage you're going to get without just driving it.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 08:35 AM
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And the one nobody mentioned: Fueling to the same level each tank. I know I don't have the patience to fill to the top of the inlet. I go till the pump knocks off then I feel my way for a bit but I don't think I'm good enough to get it exact each time. I could be a gallon or more off. That would skew the numbers for one tank, but I don't think if we are doing a long term average like I did on my summer trip it would make much difference.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 03:11 PM
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I think it's anywhere from 2-3 gallons from where the pump clicks off and I can see fuel in the filler pipe on mine.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RUFFSTUFF
I think it's anywhere from 2-3 gallons from where the pump clicks off and I can see fuel in the filler pipe on mine.
I can get about 4 gallons in after the pump shuts off. And I always do it unless the weather is very nasty.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 09:47 PM
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I've got the Titan tank which fills to the top before kicking out, I always see fuel in the filler neck before I stop filling so I know it's full every time. It sure beats standing in the cold weather trying to squeeze in those last 4 gallons.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 09:51 PM
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Sorry guys, I'm just not that patient. First time it sloshes out the filler pipe I'm done. I know by now that the mileage isn't gonna get any better so I don't bother checking it anyway. Besides, I try using my 3 step approach to a better feeling about fuel mileage when I can. 1. I have a 60 gallon tank so it's further between fill ups. 2. I never look up at the numbers on the pump. 3. Just tear off the reciept and shove it in my pocket or hand it to wifey, never never read it. I feel better already.
 
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Old Nov 16, 2010 | 10:05 PM
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yeah brandon, spoon feeding that thing when it's cold out stinks! I've considered getting the titan tank, but am a little concerned about losing ground clearance as I do a bit of off-roading come hunting season. And to you Stanley, that's probably the best way to go, don't even consider figuring your mileage 'cause you know it sucks anyway.
 
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