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Looking to buy a 2000-2002 F250 PSD 4WD SC LB. Want a stick but they seem to be rare. Heard there are problems with the automatics, torque converter failures, trans needing rebuild with less than 100,000 miles, etc. , etc.. Will have a camper on plus towing a small utility trailer or boat. Live in western Washington. Any input welcomed. Plus anything else I should be aware of.
Yes sticks are rare ,most of us ordered ours!
are you talking 5th wheel camper or slide in ?
Keep looking you might find what your looking for.
Time could be on your side, the way they economy is right now.
Most of the 4R100 tranny failures I have heard of came from PSD's running extreme HP set ups in F-350 duallys. You can easily boost a stock PSD up 80 HP with an extreme chip. When you get into the modified turbo housings and propane injection you are getting well above 100 HP more than stock. The transmission, actually the torque converter, was not designed to handle this kind of power. If you are running stock, or even a mild chip, you should not have any problems. If you plan to do any towing install a good aux. transmission cooler to keep her nice and cool. A tranny temp. gauge is also a good idea so you can monitor the temps.
I'm certainly not going to try and sway you to buy one or the other, I'd just like to point out that this board tends to magnify the negative aspects of everything.
There are TENS OF THOUSANDS of automatics out there that work flawlessly.
Both the auto and the manual tranny have their problems, search the board and you'll get a feel for them both. Even Forty had trouble with his manual. Neither is immune.
Which to buy is a matter of personal preference. IMHO the cost of operation of each is roughly the same and they are both about equally reliable if properly maintened, especially if you follow GAV10's advice about the automatic.
Originally posted by Waxy ...Even Forty had trouble with his manual...
Waxy! Jeez... talk about kicking a guy when he is down. Go easy on Forty... at his age, it is no wonder he is having problems with his stick.
Waxy is right, this board does appeal more to those with problems and want answers, rather than those with out problems. Not many posts are started with the Title, "Tranny Working Great".
I will say I was worried about the theory of evolution and the possibility of loosing my clutch foot if I didn't use it, but so far no problems with the Auto tranny.
Thnx for the responses. It's a personal preference for me. But past experience has also shown me that with an automatic , front brakes tend to wear faster than a stick. Driving an 88 Ranger 4wd 5spd with 295,000. Just changed the brakes for the second time. Original trans grenaded at 164k. The transmission shop said they were surprised that it lasted that long. Great liitle truck, had it since new. Need something bigger now.
We just went through this at work with our work truck, a 1999 PSD SD Crew Cab 4x4 w/AT. The tranny arent prone to problems it's the torque converters. There is really not a problem with them either except where the studs are that bolt the torque converter to the flywheel tend to actually crack the torque converter housing caused by the "vibration" if the PSD, not so much the power. I'm just relaying what the shop owner that cut our trucks converter apart and welded a new rear plate on told me. Was still an expensive fix, I beleive about $350.00. The truck has 180,000 miles ans pulls either a 32 foot gooseneck or a 24 foot flatbed every day of its life. Nothing but regular tranny fluid changes. Tough trucks.
My Brother-in-law has the auto on his PSD with a full Banks set-up and his tranny is just now starting to act up (50,000 miles). It is surprising that it lasted this long with the weights and speeds he drives. His neighbor has had 2 auto rebuilds in less than 50,000 miles with his stock PSD. Another friends stock auto PSD has about 60,000 miles, and no problems. He hauls the occaisional construction equipment with it.
I think the solution for a 7.3 PSD is to have somebody like Suncoaster build a tranny to take the PSD's power and torque, especially the "chipped" ones.
The only PSD with a 6 speed I've driven is another buddy, and his has been flawless. It shifts nicely too.
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