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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 04:56 PM
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At what temperature does diesel fuel start to gel? I work at a utility compnay and i go on call starting today until next friday and with the temp getting cooler i didn't know if that was something to worry about. My truck wont get started for a week and the tmeps will be in the upper twentys and above at night and in the fiftys during the day. My next question is how often do you guys recommend draining the FICM? I have heard do it every oil change, but the owners manual says to do it when the water in fuel light comes on. I hope i am talking about the right part here forgive me if i have it mixed up. Thanks for the help.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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I do only have a quater tank as well wasan't going fill up since I wouldn't be driving it for a week, don't know if that makes a difference.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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If my water in fuel light doesn't come on I do it at oil chages. It has never come on and I have never had water in my fuel. Knock on wood.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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Use one of the popular diesel fuel treatments (I use Stanadyne) and you won't have to concern yourself with fuel gelling. Mine has started at -20 without the heater. It smoked some, but it started just fine. I've used Stanadyne in my 05 since the first tankful. I've never seen the water in fuel light and when I drain the HFCM at filter changes I inspect the fuel and see no water.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 06:08 PM
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I do not recommend draining the FICM, HFCM is better, Horizontal Fuel Condition Module. Fuel will gel in minus temps depending on quality, use a winter fuel conditioner to avoid that.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Maxium4x4
I do not recommend draining the FICM, HFCM is better, Horizontal Fuel Condition Module. Fuel will gel in minus temps depending on quality, use a winter fuel conditioner to avoid that.
Maximum, you are sharp tonight. shows how people read what they are thinking instead of what's printed.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 06:36 PM
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Maximum, you are sharp tonight. shows how people read what they are thinking instead of what's printed.

I had to look at it twice though.......
 
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Old Nov 5, 2010 | 11:34 PM
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You guys don't know nothin. I took my FICM apart looking for bad solder, couldn't find anything wrong, welded a drain plug in it, drain it every other oil change, and the truck has never ran better.

(Not making fun of you swamp, just having some Friday night fun) :-)
 
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Old Nov 6, 2010 | 11:05 AM
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Actually, you should fill your tank with fuel, treat it for antigel, and then you wont get water in fuel from condensation. What the problem is for water is an empty tank full of damp air, as the temp goes down, the water condenses on the tank and gets in the fuel. That is why when you are finished for the day, running a logging truck, skidder, tractor, its advisable to fill er up. Less air space, less condensation. Also, yes, always drain HFCM on oil changes, always if water in fuel light. I have never had a WIF light up, but, i never like to leave an empty tank, change filters and check drain on oil changes and use fuel conditioner.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2010 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mhoefer
Actually, you should fill your tank with fuel, treat it for antigel, and then you wont get water in fuel from condensation. What the problem is for water is an empty tank full of damp air, as the temp goes down, the water condenses on the tank and gets in the fuel. That is why when you are finished for the day, running a logging truck, skidder, tractor, its advisable to fill er up. Less air space, less condensation. Also, yes, always drain HFCM on oil changes, always if water in fuel light. I have never had a WIF light up, but, i never like to leave an empty tank, change filters and check drain on oil changes and use fuel conditioner.
I concur...and had WIF due to condensation. I failed to emphasize to my wife that while I am gone she needs to keep the fuel tank full and she left it for over a week or two with only 1/4 tank. The temps fluctuated over that time frame and the next time she drove it the WIF light came on. She did well though. She shut it off and called my buddy for assistance!

Second, the cloud point or gelling temperature depends on the fuel and what it has been treated with. Since your temps are only going to be in the +20F range you should be fine or you could use single dose of anti-gel. If you were going to be operating in severe cold ie -20F of below then you might want to consider using #1 diesel and Howe's Anit-gel......

Thad
 
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