Change Oil?
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Change Oil?
I would like to know what ya'll think about this one. I'm looking for opinions. I always change my oil every 3,000 miles regardless if it is synthetic or dino. Filter too. I have read in the manual, they recommend 3,000 or 3 months, whichever comes first. I have had my new truck for 4 months now. I have been driving it for 3 months. There is only 1350 miles on it. Do you think I should change the oil, or wait till it hits 3000? All opinions are welcome. I do a lot of stop-n-go town driving and short jaunts.
Jimmie
2003 F250SD SB SC XLT 4X4 5.4L
Jimmie
2003 F250SD SB SC XLT 4X4 5.4L
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Seeing as how it's your first change, I would do it. Like Outpost22 mentioned, yu've probably got some break in debris in there that it wouldn't hurt to flush out.
In the future though, I would wait till I got a lot closer to 3000 miles. IMHO, much less than that and you're just wasting your money and a non-renewable resource.
Waxy
In the future though, I would wait till I got a lot closer to 3000 miles. IMHO, much less than that and you're just wasting your money and a non-renewable resource.
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Ditto, ditto.....
I just looked at my records and I also made my first (and most important) oil change at 1569 miles. I also agree with the above posts that there HAS to be miscellaneous metal pieces and shavings that won't do the new 'beast' any good.
NOW....
what oil are you gonna use?!?!?! 5W-20 (as recommended by the Big Blue Oval) OR are you gonna be a rebel like many here (including myself) and use a 5W-30?!?!?!?! Just curious...
Good luck.
I just looked at my records and I also made my first (and most important) oil change at 1569 miles. I also agree with the above posts that there HAS to be miscellaneous metal pieces and shavings that won't do the new 'beast' any good.
NOW....
what oil are you gonna use?!?!?! 5W-20 (as recommended by the Big Blue Oval) OR are you gonna be a rebel like many here (including myself) and use a 5W-30?!?!?!?! Just curious...
Good luck.
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I also agree with all the above, change it.
My new 2003 V10 was changed at 500 miles, then again at 2500 miles, thats 500, and then 2000 miles just to be xtra sure to get rid of any nasties.
I also am running 5W30 Mobil1 in my new motor regardless of what CAFE, uh I mean Ford says. This is one V10 thats gonna be around for a good long while!
For at least the next 20,000 miles im going to change every 3K, I then MAY go to 4 or 5K intervals (with oil testing) but im not so sure yet. I know syns can go much longer, but its only money, and im not wasting a non renewable resource since its syn. I would rather waste a little of my oil and money, than waste my oh so cherished V10
At about 10K im going to change transfer and trans (manual) fluids as well to syn. They too must have small filings from manufacturer that arent good.
My new 2003 V10 was changed at 500 miles, then again at 2500 miles, thats 500, and then 2000 miles just to be xtra sure to get rid of any nasties.
I also am running 5W30 Mobil1 in my new motor regardless of what CAFE, uh I mean Ford says. This is one V10 thats gonna be around for a good long while!
For at least the next 20,000 miles im going to change every 3K, I then MAY go to 4 or 5K intervals (with oil testing) but im not so sure yet. I know syns can go much longer, but its only money, and im not wasting a non renewable resource since its syn. I would rather waste a little of my oil and money, than waste my oh so cherished V10
At about 10K im going to change transfer and trans (manual) fluids as well to syn. They too must have small filings from manufacturer that arent good.
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NOW....
what oil are you gonna use?!?!?! 5W-20 (as recommended by the Big Blue Oval) OR are you gonna be a rebel like many here (including myself) and use a 5W-30?!?!?!?! Just curious...
Dale,
I will use 5W-20 Royal Purple Synthetic. I use RP in my race cars as well as my customers race engines. After 1000 miles, engine should be seated and broken in. I don't like to break in a motor on syn oil. Rings sometimes don't seat. I don't normally see anything in my race engines oil after a few passes. On street motors, I usually change at 1500 and then at 3000 in regular intervals. Doesn't matter to me whether it is syn or dino oil. I change it at 3000.
Jimmie
2003 F250SD 4X4 SB SC XLT
what oil are you gonna use?!?!?! 5W-20 (as recommended by the Big Blue Oval) OR are you gonna be a rebel like many here (including myself) and use a 5W-30?!?!?!?! Just curious...
Dale,
I will use 5W-20 Royal Purple Synthetic. I use RP in my race cars as well as my customers race engines. After 1000 miles, engine should be seated and broken in. I don't like to break in a motor on syn oil. Rings sometimes don't seat. I don't normally see anything in my race engines oil after a few passes. On street motors, I usually change at 1500 and then at 3000 in regular intervals. Doesn't matter to me whether it is syn or dino oil. I change it at 3000.
Jimmie
2003 F250SD 4X4 SB SC XLT
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Since your truck is new, change the oil. After the first several oil changes, the normal duty schedule is 5000 miles. If you're not working your truck that hard, go with 5000 miles at that point. A couple of shorter oil changes would be a good idea since the truck is new.
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I like to change it the first time at 1000 miles, then on the 5's after that. It's easy to remember to change, just a glance at the speedo, and if it's approaching a 5000 multiple, it's time!
I've done this to the trucks I've been driving for the last 30+ years, and I always get about 5 years and well over 100,000 miles out of each, and I've never had a serious engine problem.
I tend to use the oil type and weight that the manufacture recommends, since they should know what's best. Well, they should, right?
And I do nothing else at all as far as maintenance, unless I'm handing down the truck to a relative or friend, in which case, at 100,000 miles, I'll change all the rubber engine parts - belt(s) and hoses.
And I laugh at those $800 20,000 mile engine service routines that the dealers try to sell all the time!
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!
Oldchap
I've done this to the trucks I've been driving for the last 30+ years, and I always get about 5 years and well over 100,000 miles out of each, and I've never had a serious engine problem.
I tend to use the oil type and weight that the manufacture recommends, since they should know what's best. Well, they should, right?
And I do nothing else at all as far as maintenance, unless I'm handing down the truck to a relative or friend, in which case, at 100,000 miles, I'll change all the rubber engine parts - belt(s) and hoses.
And I laugh at those $800 20,000 mile engine service routines that the dealers try to sell all the time!
If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!
Oldchap
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Question: I see CAFE referenced often when people talk about Ford's 5 -20 recommendation. I have been told by several people, however, that the Super Duty trucks are NOT included as part of Ford's CAFE ratings so Ford would have no reason to recommend 5-20 for that reason.
Anyone have any absolute knowledge on this?
Anyone have any absolute knowledge on this?
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When you drive- especially frequent short trips when the engine doesn't get up to operationg temps- unburned fuel gets into the oil. This raw fuel, combined with combustion gasses and soot, can form a corrosive in the oil that is obviously not good for the engine. So, even after the initial change, you should follow the 3,000 mile / 3 month change interval.
As for which weight to use, Ford changed their requirements from 5W-30 to 5W-20 in the 2001 model year. Many theories exist as the why Ford changed, but the fact is that, for warranty purposes, it's "safer" to stick with what Ford requires for your model truck/engine. As always, you should do your own risk assesment and run what you are comfortable with.
As for which weight to use, Ford changed their requirements from 5W-30 to 5W-20 in the 2001 model year. Many theories exist as the why Ford changed, but the fact is that, for warranty purposes, it's "safer" to stick with what Ford requires for your model truck/engine. As always, you should do your own risk assesment and run what you are comfortable with.
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Originally posted by NoMo
When you drive- especially frequent short trips when the engine doesn't get up to operationg temps- unburned fuel gets into the oil. This raw fuel, combined with combustion gasses and soot, can form a corrosive in the oil that is obviously not good for the engine. So, even after the initial change, you should follow the 3,000 mile / 3 month change interval.
When you drive- especially frequent short trips when the engine doesn't get up to operationg temps- unburned fuel gets into the oil. This raw fuel, combined with combustion gasses and soot, can form a corrosive in the oil that is obviously not good for the engine. So, even after the initial change, you should follow the 3,000 mile / 3 month change interval.
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Since neither the combustion process nor the ring seal is 100% efficient, there has to be some un-burned fuel as well as some exhaust gasses vented into the crankcase. Most commonly, this is called "blow-by" and it does get mixed with your oil.