I went to the local air show this past sunday (usually go saturday but for the first time it was sold out). Like usual they have alot of planes that just dont have any ID signs saying what such and such is. So I have my book out covering 1914 - 1980 aircraft but the photos below are the ones I need help in identifying to label the photos correctly.

The first group is of the same style but different aircrafts. I orignally thought they were A4 Skyhawks but I have yet to see a A4 Skyhawk be a two seater nor with an angled downward elevator surfaces out back.



This one here I want to say its a McDonnel F-101A Voodoo trainer but that red star on the tail keeps throwing me into thinking its a russian plane. Not to mention the air intakes dont look as big as they do in my book on the line drawing of the craft.



Aside from the above that I just cant ID the rest I am confidant I will find in my reference book easily.

If not ill post others of the ones I cant ID.

 

McDonnell Douglas T-45 Goshawk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It says "T-45C" on the tail. "T" is the trainer designation for U.S. military aircraft, and it kind of looks like a trainer.

Jason

 

Here's a possibility on the second one (note the dolphin below the cockpit, and dolphin can be translated to "delfin" in several foreign languages):

Aero L-29 Delfín - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jason

 

Nice pics!....Any more pics of the F-15E in the background?.....any WWII warbirds at the show?

 

I didnt noticed that marking. I know on the F-15 I got a photo of it said (F-15E) on the tail but I never stopped to look on those. But I had a gut feeling it was a McDonnell Douglas product but atlast my book doesnt even show it but now that I know what it is I can check to see if it does.

So it is a Russian/Czech. It has to be the same plane cause the top of the tail is identical as well as the cockpit canopy.

Yep there was alot. I will post some of the better photos I took. This year I focused more on taking video over photos and next year I plan on getting a better higher megapixel digital camera with a record function and better zoom.

In no real order here they are.











































Not sure what this one is but I want to say its some version of a Yak

 

First of all - thank you more than I can say for sharing these wonderful images with us! I spent twenty and a month in NAVAL AIR, and my Poppa was an aerospace Engineer.

GOD HOW I LOVE AIRPLANES....

I'll give you the rundown as best I can comment on it.

First of all - in your first post what you have is a "BUCKEYE" as it is called by flight trainees that go through Pensacola. That thing is the first jet powered flight trainer that prospective fighter pilots ever set foot in.

As to the second picture in your lead post, DFIK (DamnFIKnow...) although it looks oddly familiar

YOUR NEXT post though - I'd like to congratulate you on a terrific picture of a Taylorcraft Spotter plane - the engine is a Continental horizontally opposed four cylinder that can be made aerobatic, but WHY? It's a slow short range, pond hopper. My Poppa took me salmon fishing in the islands offshore of Washington in one a long time ago - we stashed our fishing rods down the length of the fuselage which is aluminum tubing covered in fabric - in turn covered with aircraft dope.

Next you have a P-51 Mustang - but what is interesting is that it is an early varient that doesn't have a bubble canopy.

The F-18 Hornet next is sometimes referred to by the troops as a "LAWN DART" because of the shape, and by maintenance chiefs in the navy as "THAT PLASTIC PIECE OF (S!)" because the computers that enable it to fly won't - unless you load it right.

F-15's we know about, ditto the warthog tank killer...

The next photo shows the old and the new. What is now the job of new attack fighters such as the F-18 was once done by "HELLCATS", "BEARCATS", "HELLDIVERS", and so on...

Next two pictures: My father and I both loved the Corsair F-4U. There has been no aircraft quite like it before or since - the graceful wing design is argued by some to be only to make room for a big prop, but my father told me that raising the fuselage center of gravity allowed it to flip over more quickly and be more agile. In later "FLY BY WIRE" aircraft, this ability ("INHERENT INSTABILITY") was exploited to the point that without electronically enhanced flight controls you just can't maintain level flight.
("LIVING ON THE EDGE!!!")

~"FLY BY WIRE" flight controls were what eventually made the "FLYING WING" concept feasable... It needed instant correction for errors. Since electronics operate at the speed of light - computers became the order of battle.

God freaking help you if you lose all of your electrical backups or the computers dump!

You might think F-4 phantom II's were way outmoded - but they aren't. Nothing else can take the damage they can and still come home. There was an F-4 that landed safely during the Viet Nam Conflict with over 180 .50 caliber holes in its airframe (think half of an inch, and then imagine collateral damage) - but when they do finally quit they fly like a lead brick, and the glide path aerodynamically matches. They are still in use as electronic jammers by the USAF, designated "WILD WEASELS" - which is remarkable considering how old they are.

NEXT TWO: The USMC uses a version of this aircraft as a spotter plane, that I want to say is made by Cessna(NOQUOTE)
The next is what appear to be a pair of C-119 "BOXCARS"

Now - when you see a Mitsubishi drive down the street remember this picture. That's who made it...
And that is what attacked Pearl Harbor, this is a torpedo bomber airplane, with a rear gunners position.

What is interesting about the Japanese ZERO (which this isn't) is that it was modeled after the T-6(?) TEXAN the design for which we sold to the japanese (according to my pop)
"- and they modified the design for shorter range but greater agility and used the son of a bitches against us in a suprise attack!" (quoting as accurately as I can). From what Poppa said - they used our own design against us - but upgraded.

~ I'm going to skip ahead because most of you know about the rest of these. The mystery airplane is most likely a "SUKHOI" - LOOK AT IT!!!

The agile lines, big engine, this ain't no YAKOLEV. Only Sukhoi would have gone there, but without my Pop I can't say for sure...


I still miss him...


PS:The second to the last is the most technologically advanced hunter killer in the inventory, second only to stealth tech aircraft

 

The P-51 Mustang is a "B" model, early production......Pilots disliked the poor rearward viability of this model, which produced a blind spot that often contained a FW-190 or a ME-109G!........The bubble canopy "D" model redressed this shortcoming, and produced the finest piston driven fighter of history.

The A-10 Warthog looks positively venomous............the last thing many a terrorist have ever seen.

 

It's a Yak 50 based on the tail number:

images Yak 50 791602 1979 N79YK jpg 417 3 KBytes - photo Yak 50 791602 1979 N79YK jpg

Google is your friend. (Psst, Wolfie! See my first two posts in this thread.)

Jason

 

Correct, I say its a P-51B as well even though the announcers called it a P-51C. Another thing is technically their name was changed after WWII from the P designation to the F. I guess from my understanding is F model planes are "fighters" where B models are "Bombers" and AH models are "Attack Helicopters", ect. I believe P got the meaning of "Patrol" even though I believe in WWII "P"`s stood for "Production" or "Patrol"

Yep the A-10 didnt fly on saturday due to engine problems they overnighted parts from Arizona and worked on it up till midnight so it would fly on sunday.

I have alot of videos but I dont think they are good enough quality to put up on youtube but hopefully after getting a better digital camera next year`s videos will come out good enough I wouldnt mind posting them.

 

JASE? I stand corrected - although it does look very similar to later fully aerobatic craft used in airshows.

*The "P" designation is often given to be "PERSUIT", which is taken to be an interceptor in later parlance.

You're on target, and that is not intended to be a slap.

I found when my father died that I didn't know him as well as I should or could have - but we were the same.

Much has been lost that we could have to look at if we had stayed closer.


~There is so much he could have told me if I were not such an idiot....

(with typical germanic pragmatism he states)
But it is too late for that now....

At least I had a last beer with him before I never saw him again, and I still like classical music


TANSTAAFL


~It still pisses me off that it was so late though...

 

I like the shot of the C-17 and the C-47 in flight............The C-17 is about to stall, the C-47 is flying as fast as it possibly can.......or was the C-17 rapidly overtaking the C-47 as you took the shot?

The P-51C was simply a "B" model optimized for the ground attack role?......if so, he may have been right.

 

AHH!! Good stuff. Made my day.

 

You're right. The C17 Globemaster was pretty much idling as the C47 Skytrain was basically floored.

This one here I feel was a gunship at one time but had all the guns removed. After all the name is "Spooky" and just about all "Spooky"'s ive seen were spooky gunships.

I couldnt say what the C version was used for. I did see alot of information that the B and C were basically identical the only difference is that the B`s were built in Long Beach California and the C`s in Dallas Texas

This is the same P51 as above from a different view. We had P51D`s here as well but I didnt get a photo of those only video.



Heres the interior of the C-47

 

Wow!.....you got the USAF Thunderbirds too!

I like the F-4U Corsair too........or as the Japanese called it "Whispering death".

Any P-38 lightnings?..........RAF or Luftwaffe aircraft?

The B-24 Liberator, was that "Diamond Lil"?.........If so, I have walked through that aircraft about 10 years ago........walked through,....... rides were about $250!

 

Yep in the 7 years ive been going the Thunderbirds were supposed to be at the show numerous times but always cancled at the last min. Last year we got the Blue Angels and this year we actually got the Thunderbirds.

We had a P-38F-1LO here last year, shes stationed out towards Austin. Here is a photo of that plane from last year. She was listed as being here this year but wasnt there on Sunday but probably was on saturday.





And more of last years show photos I got some of the other P-51`s that was there.





We also had a F5E Tiger II last year as well. Didnt fly though.


and one of the last times that this will ever be seen. This is the Blue Angels C-130 hercules "Bert" with JATO








This B-24 is a B-24D (rare B-24 not many are still around with the birdcage nose bubble) and from what I can tell she is either "OI 927" or "OL 927" which I think name is the second one.

Yep, whistling death. Over the speaker system the anouncers were talking bout how when they dived onto the japanese planes they would make a whistling sound.