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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 07:10 PM
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ECT??? Thermostat

Well have come to the conclusion that my thermostat isn't working so figured I would check here for second opinion and thoughts.. ..

Let it idle today for about 1hr with an ambient air temp of 68*F.. and the ECT got only up to 156*F took it on the highway and rode it hard for about 10 miles and only saw 173*F.. (Readings are from my scan gauge)..Question... Is it safe to assume thermostat is stuck... And is this something I need to address right away??? What are the Pros/cons to leaving it like it is???

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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 07:19 PM
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Pros: None that I'm aware of
Cons: Exponentially increased bearing wear caused by oil not getting up to temp, decreased fuel mileage, Heater will suck, I'm sure there are more that I'm not thinking of
It's a twenty dollar part that takes about thirty minutes to change...if you're slow...no reason not to change it
 
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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Well I could do it myself but with my luck would snap off the Studs... So figure I would bring it in to the dealer (Anyone know if its covered under fords Premium care??) and have them check the steering stabilizer...

Also how would it effect bearing life EOT gets up to 180* while cruising on the highway??? Just drops down when idling or in bumper to bumper traffic???
 
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 09:31 PM
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Your engine is designed to run properly at 190+ F. There is no "pro" to not having the t-stat changed, but there are plenty of "cons." It's an easy and (relatively) inexpensive fix. A true no-brainer, IMHO.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 01:33 AM
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I have changed a few thermostats ... But to tell you the truth the whole stud thing and the bracket that bolts to the housing has me worried...(I have a tendency of snapping bolts) Can anyone recommend how to take the bracket off the stud.. Do I need to remove the sensor...Can I just unscrew the sensor and lift the bracket straight up..Or is the sensor going to snap before it releases

Oh yeah My truck is a 2005...


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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 02:09 AM
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I had to remove the bracket in order to get the studs out properly. The bracket is connected to the EBP tube. I disconnected the bracket from the EBP tube, took the nuts off of the stud and lifted it out.

In my case, I also had to disconnect the fuel return line and move it out of the way. The stud backed out into the line and it would not come out. Others have not had that problem.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 02:20 AM
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I had the same fuel line problem as David, but I was able to barely get the stud past the line without removing or bending it. I also disconnected the EBP tube and cleaned it out while I was at it.

First, loosen degas cap and drain a couple of gallons of coolant from the radiator. Use clean gallon jugs so you can put it back when you're done. Then remove top radiator hose from t-stat housing. It has a spring clamp. I disconnected the IC tube from the 90 elbow first, then loosened the clamp on the other end and rotated it out of the way for easier access.

Once you have the hose off the t-stat housing, remove sensor. The two nuts that hold the sensor bracket are not hard to remove, and the studs are really pretty stout. Give everything a good shot of PB Blaster or some such if it looks corroded. Once the sensor bracket is off, remove the studs. The one by the fuel line will be slow-going because there's not a lot of room to turn the wrench (I used open/box ends). If the fuel line interferes with the stud too much, you can try to carefully pry it out of the way, or just remove it. Here's what it'll look like when you get to that point.



Once you get the studs out the housing comes right off. Check the new t-stat/housing assembly to be sure the rubber O-ring is in place, then reverse the procedure to install.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 02:38 AM
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Ok,, How did you guys disconnect the bracket from the sensor or the ebt tube??

Thanks again
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 02:42 AM
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The EPB tube connects to the bracket with a simple flair fitting. I removed the sensor first while I was figuring it out, then used an open end wrench to loosen the flair nut.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 08:52 AM
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When putting the housing back on I used vaseline to hold the O ring in the groove. Easier than fighting it. Do make sure that you get a new O ring.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 09:53 AM
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Anyone know if it would be covered under ford. ESP premiumcare....
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 10:45 AM
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I am sure that it would be but what is your deductable. You could do that job for less that 50 bucks and an hour at most of your time.

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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarge261
I am sure that it would be but what is your deductable. You could do that job for less that 50 bucks and an hour at most of your time.

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That all depends on the amount of beer involved. You just can't rush thru these repairs. You must be very methodical and take your time. Don't want to be rushed and put the O ring in upside down.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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Too bad you don't have an 07, when they made away with the the studs. I changed the thermostat on mine last month, and there were no studs. Just 2 bolts!
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 01:47 PM
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Too bad you don't have an 07, when they made away with the the studs. I changed the thermostat on mine last month, and there were no studs. Just 2 bolts!
My 05 has the studs and it was no big deal. The press. sw. bracket lifted off the studs. A little tight but no biggy.
 
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