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Pretty impressive video. But here's my question and a for instance.
How does the affects of time change how an engine wears? For instance. My stepson is a salesman for Ecolab. He has a company supplied car. He drives about 40K miles per year. His car is slightly over 2 years old and has about 100K on the clock. It still looks and runs great.
If the same car were 6 years old, would it still look and run as good as it does now with the same number of miles?
My point is, I'm trying to find a flaw in Ford's testing. There may not be a flaw as they do expose the engine to larger extremes than most people ever will.
Much like when they introduced the 2008 Superduty with the 6.4L, they used an F-450 as a test mule and pulled a 15,000 pound trailer all over the country for 100K miles in a six month period. While that's impressive, the truck didn't have 5-6 years of wear on it.
I'm all ears here. If my thoughts are way off here, I'd like to be told.
How does the affects of time change how an engine wears? For instance. My stepson is a salesman for Ecolab. He has a company supplied car. He drives about 40K miles per year. His car is slightly over 2 years old and has about 100K on the clock. It still looks and runs great.
If the same car were 6 years old, would it still look and run as good as it does now with the same number of miles?
My point is, I'm trying to find a flaw in Ford's testing. There may not be a flaw as they do expose the engine to larger extremes than most people ever will.
Much like when they introduced the 2008 Superduty with the 6.4L, they used an F-450 as a test mule and pulled a 15,000 pound trailer all over the country for 100K miles in a six month period. While that's impressive, the truck didn't have 5-6 years of wear on it.
I'm all ears here. If my thoughts are way off here, I'd like to be told.
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The testing that ford is doing on the ECO boost 3.5l as far as the dyno/woods towing/nascar/baja is flat out impressive, i would be willing to bet no engine in the field will ever have to endure that much punishment.
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Pretty impressive video. But here's my question and a for instance.
How does the affects of time change how an engine wears? For instance. My stepson is a salesman for Ecolab. He has a company supplied car. He drives about 40K miles per year. His car is slightly over 2 years old and has about 100K on the clock. It still looks and runs great.
If the same car were 6 years old, would it still look and run as good as it does now with the same number of miles?
My point is, I'm trying to find a flaw in Ford's testing. There may not be a flaw as they do expose the engine to larger extremes than most people ever will.
Much like when they introduced the 2008 Superduty with the 6.4L, they used an F-450 as a test mule and pulled a 15,000 pound trailer all over the country for 100K miles in a six month period. While that's impressive, the truck didn't have 5-6 years of wear on it.
I'm all ears here. If my thoughts are way off here, I'd like to be told.
How does the affects of time change how an engine wears? For instance. My stepson is a salesman for Ecolab. He has a company supplied car. He drives about 40K miles per year. His car is slightly over 2 years old and has about 100K on the clock. It still looks and runs great.
If the same car were 6 years old, would it still look and run as good as it does now with the same number of miles?
My point is, I'm trying to find a flaw in Ford's testing. There may not be a flaw as they do expose the engine to larger extremes than most people ever will.
Much like when they introduced the 2008 Superduty with the 6.4L, they used an F-450 as a test mule and pulled a 15,000 pound trailer all over the country for 100K miles in a six month period. While that's impressive, the truck didn't have 5-6 years of wear on it.
I'm all ears here. If my thoughts are way off here, I'd like to be told.
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I think at this point drivetrain durability is a non issue in trucks. Even with a turbocharger i'm sure ford can get this to last quite awhile. I have a 351w in my 91' and drivetrain problems are the least of my worries at 160,000 hard life of towing, plowing and with long oil change intervals than its should have. The damage caused by rust from being a newengland truck are more of a problem.
I can't wait to see these videos and get a ecoboost truck in a decade or so.
I can't wait to see these videos and get a ecoboost truck in a decade or so.
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I'm not all that concerned with the durability. A lot of what is in the 3.5EB is proven technology. Phased cams really only had problems in the early 3 valve 5.4s. The turbos look pretty simple to me. No VGT or any of that mess not to mention no diesel smoke to leave soot buildup. Twin OHC 4 valve engines are not new. The 3.5EB itself is not totally new as it's been around in some form since 2007.
I see it being pretty reliable from the get go. Only thing I'd even be remotely concerned about is the high pressure fuel system. However I only get nervous about that from the diesels but there is no high pressure oil to keep clean or low quality diesel fuel to worry about.
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I see it being pretty reliable from the get go. Only thing I'd even be remotely concerned about is the high pressure fuel system. However I only get nervous about that from the diesels but there is no high pressure oil to keep clean or low quality diesel fuel to worry about.
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I'm not all that concerned with the durability. A lot of what is in the 3.5EB is proven technology. Phased cams really only had problems in the early 3 valve 5.4s. The turbos look pretty simple to me. No VGT or any of that mess not to mention no diesel smoke to leave soot buildup. Twin OHC 4 valve engines are not new. The 3.5EB itself is not totally new as it's been around in some form since 2007.
I see it being pretty reliable from the get go. Only thing I'd even be remotely concerned about is the high pressure fuel system. However I only get nervous about that from the diesels but there is no high pressure oil to keep clean or low quality diesel fuel to worry about.
Mike
I see it being pretty reliable from the get go. Only thing I'd even be remotely concerned about is the high pressure fuel system. However I only get nervous about that from the diesels but there is no high pressure oil to keep clean or low quality diesel fuel to worry about.
Mike
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Good to know. I'm not too well versed in turbo technology but i knew ford would figure something out. They wouldn't put it in a truck, and trucks sure get abused badly. They also are undergoing this huge publicity stunt and they have to trust what they built to be able to do that. Still hoping they get onto off rust. Sadly steel will never be rust proof. I hate new england sometimes.
Got to love the flat torque of these ecoboost. Flat as a wall can't wait.
Got to love the flat torque of these ecoboost. Flat as a wall can't wait.
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