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need a lift comparison
Originally posted by YETI
Here's my thoughts...
Here's my thoughts...
Originally posted by YETI
Since there can't be a TRUE comparison without a non bias group performing the "tests" most everything else is said in opinion.
Everybody's opinion differs and this is no place for advertisements of peoples products.
So with that said, your opinions are welcome but lets not push to hard on one manufacturer over another based on anything else but your real life experiences , likes and dislikes, and why.
I and some others like to hear or see proof, lets try to include that in our posts when replying with opinions on lift kits.
Since there can't be a TRUE comparison without a non bias group performing the "tests" most everything else is said in opinion.
Everybody's opinion differs and this is no place for advertisements of peoples products.
So with that said, your opinions are welcome but lets not push to hard on one manufacturer over another based on anything else but your real life experiences , likes and dislikes, and why.
I and some others like to hear or see proof, lets try to include that in our posts when replying with opinions on lift kits.
Originally posted by YETI
"they look cool" or "the guy says his are the best" in my world that doesn't cut it.
"they look cool" or "the guy says his are the best" in my world that doesn't cut it.
Originally posted by YETI
Do I know everything? almost
Do I know everything? almost
Originally posted by YETI
With that said, Please still include the humor
With that said, Please still include the humor
Originally posted by YETI
If you would like my book on tape, please send $20 to my po box
If you would like my book on tape, please send $20 to my po box
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Abendx, once you see it MY WAY we will get along fine!!
Aslo I didn't say my book on tape was better than anybody elses, so I am not pushing it.
By the way , thanks, I recieved your check today and will mail the tape out tomorrow
Aslo I didn't say my book on tape was better than anybody elses, so I am not pushing it.
By the way , thanks, I recieved your check today and will mail the tape out tomorrow
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From: Oxnard, CA
need a lift comparison
Originally posted by YETI
Abendx, once you see it MY WAY we will get along fine!!
Aslo I didn't say my book on tape was better than anybody elses, so I am not pushing it.
By the way , thanks, I recieved your check today and will mail the tape out tomorrow
Abendx, once you see it MY WAY we will get along fine!!
Aslo I didn't say my book on tape was better than anybody elses, so I am not pushing it.
By the way , thanks, I recieved your check today and will mail the tape out tomorrow
ok ok.... i see it your way....
YETI is great, YETI is great, YETI is great..... buy his book on tape.... you will know once you have it that it is the BEST book out there..... YETI is great, YETI is great, YETI is great.....
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need a lift comparison
Guys !
can I ask why my name comes up all the time?
and I don't even have a lift !!!!!!!!!!
Oh Mr moderator !!!!!!
the boys aren't playing nice !
na na na !
You guys herd him $ no object go for it !
Rich
can I ask why my name comes up all the time?
and I don't even have a lift !!!!!!!!!!
Oh Mr moderator !!!!!!
the boys aren't playing nice !
na na na !
You guys herd him $ no object go for it !
Rich
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Originally posted by abendx
damn you....
ok ok.... i see it your way....
YETI is great, YETI is great, YETI is great..... buy his book on tape.... you will know once you have it that it is the BEST book out there..... YETI is great, YETI is great, YETI is great.....
damn you....
ok ok.... i see it your way....
YETI is great, YETI is great, YETI is great..... buy his book on tape.... you will know once you have it that it is the BEST book out there..... YETI is great, YETI is great, YETI is great.....
Good, Now see how good we get along
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forty..... buy YETI's book and it will all become clear to you.....
YETI's book is the BEST book out there... don't be fooled by books that look like his.... they are mucho inferior !!
after learning what YETI has to say ... u will be enlightened and will see the light.
YETI's book is the BEST book out there... don't be fooled by books that look like his.... they are mucho inferior !!
after learning what YETI has to say ... u will be enlightened and will see the light.
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From: Oxnard, CA
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Originally posted by YETI
Nice.....For that, I will send you a free one Abendx!!
Nice.....For that, I will send you a free one Abendx!!
now i will have one to hang in my front window so EVERYONE will know how cool i am while still having the copy i bought to refer to daily so that i can preach the YETI gosple to everyone that ever asks about books, reading, or even off topic subjects that i might be able to steer....
YETI is great... BUY his book!!!
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need a lift comparison
I am runing a 6" full-traction suspention lift kit.
It is well made and comes with everthing needed to install thy kit. It went together with no problems.
Kits come in 4 - 6 - 8" kits
Web) full-traction.com
Only thing I should have did was went with the 8" kit.
02 F350 Lariat CC PSD Black 6" full-traction lift with 35" BFG AT on 589 rims
It is well made and comes with everthing needed to install thy kit. It went together with no problems.
Kits come in 4 - 6 - 8" kits
Web) full-traction.com
Only thing I should have did was went with the 8" kit.
02 F350 Lariat CC PSD Black 6" full-traction lift with 35" BFG AT on 589 rims
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From: Metuchen
need a lift comparison
I am runing a 6" full-traction suspention lift.
It is well made with everthing needed to install it.
Went together with no problems.
Kit comes in 4 - 6 & 8" kits.
Web) full-traction.com
Only thing I would have did different is go with the 8" kit.
02 F350 Lariat CC PSD black with 6" full-traction lift 35" BFG AT & 589 rims 8'6"western plow
It is well made with everthing needed to install it.
Went together with no problems.
Kit comes in 4 - 6 & 8" kits.
Web) full-traction.com
Only thing I would have did different is go with the 8" kit.
02 F350 Lariat CC PSD black with 6" full-traction lift 35" BFG AT & 589 rims 8'6"western plow
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From: Anaheim
need a lift comparison
Ok, I know this subject has been beaten to death, but I need something more conclusive to make up my mind.
If you have The Edge lift kit on your truck and you have also used another lift company, I want to hear what you think of both systems.
I just want opinions of people who have had a name brand lift kit and then went to the Edge.
You don't have to even name the previous lift company... just what you think of your Edge system compared to what you had previously.
I am going to go with either a 3" kit or a 4.5" kit. For various reasons, I keep researching this topic and am still not confident enough to make a decision on a kit.
$ is of no concern.
Thanks,
Scott
Scott ,Its probably going to be a while before you get that answer... The Edge is a young company when it comes to lift kits. And the market share for the EDGE is Nothing Like the big boys (i.e. Fabtech, skyjacker, ect) I would keep doing what you are doing though... So many guys make a quick choice based on hearsay and are not happy with it. Suspension is really tuff to compare unless you have two identical truck with different kits on them side by side to compare. Plus Most people are totally happy with the systems they bought becuse they have nothing better to compare with. Apendx makes a good point about the Bilstiens in the EDGE kits as well. You can buy Bilstiens Cheep online and adding them to any kit with help the ride (imo). Keep up the reaserch. One good way to really reaserch suspension is go to your local book store and look under Performance suspension or racing suspension... Some writters Like Carol Smith wrote Great Books on suspension engineering that will give you better insight to what is ok and what is better. Spring Rates, And shock Valving are all covered in those books... I think once you understand what is really happing when your supension moves it will help you to make your choice. A person who knows Suspension can look at a leaf spring and know how it will ride. As well as how a shock is put together. The books will cover lots of fun stuff like Roll Centers and anti-dive, anti squat. All thing that realate to a superduty.... Good luck...
If you have The Edge lift kit on your truck and you have also used another lift company, I want to hear what you think of both systems.
I just want opinions of people who have had a name brand lift kit and then went to the Edge.
You don't have to even name the previous lift company... just what you think of your Edge system compared to what you had previously.
I am going to go with either a 3" kit or a 4.5" kit. For various reasons, I keep researching this topic and am still not confident enough to make a decision on a kit.
$ is of no concern.
Thanks,
Scott
Scott ,Its probably going to be a while before you get that answer... The Edge is a young company when it comes to lift kits. And the market share for the EDGE is Nothing Like the big boys (i.e. Fabtech, skyjacker, ect) I would keep doing what you are doing though... So many guys make a quick choice based on hearsay and are not happy with it. Suspension is really tuff to compare unless you have two identical truck with different kits on them side by side to compare. Plus Most people are totally happy with the systems they bought becuse they have nothing better to compare with. Apendx makes a good point about the Bilstiens in the EDGE kits as well. You can buy Bilstiens Cheep online and adding them to any kit with help the ride (imo). Keep up the reaserch. One good way to really reaserch suspension is go to your local book store and look under Performance suspension or racing suspension... Some writters Like Carol Smith wrote Great Books on suspension engineering that will give you better insight to what is ok and what is better. Spring Rates, And shock Valving are all covered in those books... I think once you understand what is really happing when your supension moves it will help you to make your choice. A person who knows Suspension can look at a leaf spring and know how it will ride. As well as how a shock is put together. The books will cover lots of fun stuff like Roll Centers and anti-dive, anti squat. All thing that realate to a superduty.... Good luck...
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To whom it may concern, the bottom line on EDGE kits
: i have never run the EDGE but i am all knowing so heres a quick analogy:
the EDGE will only sell there kits with Bilstiens and they really push the 7100's at a minimum, and with their big kits you must go with Xover steering..
This shows two things about the company
1. Xover steering... any truck running their kit will be done RIGHT, thats comendable, especaily when they could make more profit by selling more kits without that setup, but they want it done right.
2. the mandatory bilstiens.... heres the heart of my topic, (boy some people are not going to like this) on a superduty with Leaf springs, there is not enough flex and/or dynamics of the way the stiff suspension works to EVER pump a shock hard enough to need race valved shocks with rezzies, im sorry i race quads and spend 1000's on tricked out shocks witch get the hell beat out of them, BUT i surely did not spend 1000s on the shocks on my truck, nothing in the RACE industry uses leaf spring suspension, that is used in the Work industry, the solid axel, leaf spring setup cant move fast enough to ever heat the shock to the point of fading, and if you hit the whoops hard and fast enough to do this something else on your truck will give(just a mass and energy equation) Sooo my point is they have you run massive expensive shocks, which valved right may give a bit smoother ride than some generic vavlved, doubled up oil shock setup, but they demand you use these shocks cause they run with there kit just because the kits are way overbuilt and supposedly setup for hardcore application, but belive me your truck could not handle what those bilstien 7100/9100's were setup to take, SO ITS OVERKILL, ALOT OF WHAT YOU PAY FOR IS OVERKILL! thats the bottom line
HOWEVER, IT LOOKS AWSOME AND IF I COULD HAVE AFFORDED IT, I WOULD DEFINATLY BE RUNNING IT!!
if money is no object than go for it! but your truck will never be a desert Racer because you went with an EDGE system a Skyjacker equipped truck will take just as much abuse before something breaks!
Jetjock16
: i have never run the EDGE but i am all knowing so heres a quick analogy:
the EDGE will only sell there kits with Bilstiens and they really push the 7100's at a minimum, and with their big kits you must go with Xover steering..
This shows two things about the company
1. Xover steering... any truck running their kit will be done RIGHT, thats comendable, especaily when they could make more profit by selling more kits without that setup, but they want it done right.
2. the mandatory bilstiens.... heres the heart of my topic, (boy some people are not going to like this) on a superduty with Leaf springs, there is not enough flex and/or dynamics of the way the stiff suspension works to EVER pump a shock hard enough to need race valved shocks with rezzies, im sorry i race quads and spend 1000's on tricked out shocks witch get the hell beat out of them, BUT i surely did not spend 1000s on the shocks on my truck, nothing in the RACE industry uses leaf spring suspension, that is used in the Work industry, the solid axel, leaf spring setup cant move fast enough to ever heat the shock to the point of fading, and if you hit the whoops hard and fast enough to do this something else on your truck will give(just a mass and energy equation) Sooo my point is they have you run massive expensive shocks, which valved right may give a bit smoother ride than some generic vavlved, doubled up oil shock setup, but they demand you use these shocks cause they run with there kit just because the kits are way overbuilt and supposedly setup for hardcore application, but belive me your truck could not handle what those bilstien 7100/9100's were setup to take, SO ITS OVERKILL, ALOT OF WHAT YOU PAY FOR IS OVERKILL! thats the bottom line
HOWEVER, IT LOOKS AWSOME AND IF I COULD HAVE AFFORDED IT, I WOULD DEFINATLY BE RUNNING IT!!
if money is no object than go for it! but your truck will never be a desert Racer because you went with an EDGE system a Skyjacker equipped truck will take just as much abuse before something breaks!
Jetjock16
Last edited by jetjock16; Feb 27, 2003 at 09:54 PM.