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TR tags are a ripoff... I think they think you're dumb! TR tags are for truck with a GVWR of 26,000lbs or more. Our trucks aren't even rated at that much! With the 12,500lbs of trailer my truck is rated for and my 8,000lbs of truck, that's still 20,000lbs... screw the DMV. I like my Ham Radio plates... pretty cool and not the norm, at least around here.
When I quit farming, I was going to switch from F-tags (Farm Vehicle-Business-no tax relief) to Truck tags which also do not qualify for relief on my 350. Clerk at DMV actually asked if I wanted to list GVWR as 7500 so I could get regular tags, which I promptly did. Been through road checks, etc. with no problems - I don't know the difference either, unless I guess you routinely pull a trailer or something.
We are in the process of getting ready to sell our Excursion. Need to do that before moving to the F350.
I am just going to hold onto my Registration Cards to have as an example of how I want the new vehicle registered. Mine has the EW field filled out (7127), and we do get the tax relief on the vehicle.
TR tags are a ripoff... I think they think you're dumb! TR tags are for truck with a GVWR of 26,000lbs or more. Our trucks aren't even rated at that much! With the 12,500lbs of trailer my truck is rated for and my 8,000lbs of truck, that's still 20,000lbs... screw the DMV. I like my Ham Radio plates... pretty cool and not the norm, at least around here.
I agree, they are! I see no benefit to someone using there vehicle for personal use having them. At least if it is a business use vehicle, the person is getting the tax benefit of writing the truck itself off!
Now, if I were able to upgrade my axles to F-250 axles and then have the HP and transmission to handle it, I'm sure I could break 26K. But I don't know what I'd ever need to haul that would weigh that much anyhow! But I agree... I feel bad for the guys that have truck plates because they think they need them.
Dealer said they would not switch tags/not permitted. I will try to get rrgular plates at dmv, if i Am loaded to my 9000 gross and have passenger tags can i be fined? I dont trailer often but haul firewood etc alot and it get heavy
I'm one of those idiots that has the truck plates on my F250. I actually registered it for 10K instead of the 8800 GVWR.
And yes, you can get a ticket if you're over the registered weight. I know a lot of folks get away with it, but I tow regularly through many states. While VA may not be too bad about it, others aren't so forgiving. PA and OH are really tough! I'd rather keep it legal than get jacked up down the line. I'm leaving for Maine at 6AM and will cross through at least 6 states on the way, then back to Baltimore on Sunday. I'd rather be legal than sweat finding that one weight cop who's having a bad day..
Just thought of something, My truck is 7400 empty (well with me in it, but no load). If you have car plates (7500LB) on a SD you're over weight if you let a friend ride with you! If you have a fat GF, you're really gunna get hammered!
Not that I see them running around ticketing folks for this, but it would be kinda funny Though she may not think her getting you a weight violation ticket is too cool...
Im in Northern Virginia and bought the same truck the OP described in the first post - mine is a 2014 F350 Crew Cab Shortbed with the Lariat Ultimate package and a 6.7 diesel. I bought it In December 2014. The Ford dealer where I bought it (Ted Britt in Chantilly, VA) couldnt give me anything other than truck tags for it because of the way their system was set up with DMV (or so they say...). They also told me I would have to take my registration to DMV to get the truck tags removed after I bought it.
They way they registered it, my Empty Weight (EW) is on the registration as 7450, my Gross Weight (GW) is listed on the registration as 11000, and the Gross Vehicle Weight Ratio (GVWR) and Gross Combined Weight Ratio (GCWR) were both left empty. My dealer also listed the model on there as an F3s, which I can only assume was a typo for F350.
I had to wait until the dealer sent the title paperwork to DMV, which took about a month, before I could go talk to DMV about it. When I went there, they would not let me opt out of the truck tags without a weigh station reciept showing my weight as less than the weight Ford reported it on my title (7450#). I asked them why and was told that the truck, with me sitting in it (I weigh 175#) put me over the 7501# weight limit for regular passenger vehicle tags, and I could be subject to an overweight fine with regular passenger vehicle tags. I said I would take that chance, and was told no, not without the weigh station reciept.
So, I took my happy A$$ down to the nearest weigh station. With me in the driver's seat and a half a talk of fuel, I cross the scales at just shy of 8400#. I didnt even bother going back to DMV after that to try to get the truck tags removed. I am hoping when the personal property tax comes due, ill be able to fight that the EW is under the 7501 limit, and therefore it should quality for tax relief. I guess we will see if this works or not...in the mean time, im expecting to get slaughtered at tax time. Hope for the best, plan for the worst I assume...
There is no benefit to having a "T" tag except to make you legal at whatever gross weight you register the truck for up to the max gross assigned by Ford. Virginia DMV gets it from the VIN.
The disadvantages are:
1. As mentioned, NO personal property tax relief (slightly more than $200/yr savings on my '11 F250 XL Supercab 4WD) for the 2015 year.
2. Truck rules apply. If you see any highway signs in VA that say anything specifically about trucks ( speed limits cars 55--trucks 45, etc., this means you with the "T" tags. Weigh stations (All trucks (loaded) , this means you also.
3. More expensive tags. (Slightly higher and based on the GVWR)
I lowered my max GW (gross weight) at the DMV and bought passenger tags. A friend who is a retired Virginia State Trooper said that he had not written or seen a ticket written for overweight on a private truck period. If you are obviously overweight ( a small dozer or gravels piled up and falling off of all four sides of the bed, etc., a DOT trooper may be called to take your vehicle out of service. It is not legal to exceed 7500 Lbs gross on the passenger tags but.......If you do get a ticket for overweight, the fine will be less than the savings on the tax relief for that year anyway.
For the present, I'm going to keep the passenger tags and roll the dice.
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