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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 08:35 AM
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EFI 300 advice needed

My '91 300EFI has a bad stumbling problem except when you hammer it; and at idle (only in park) the RPMS drop to the point it almost stalls, then shoots up. You put her in drive, it doesnt do that.

I have new fuel filter, put on a TPS (throttle positioning sensor) and a new MAP sensor. They plugged my van in at the auto parts store cant get a fault reading.
Any ideas ?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 09:50 AM
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Have you put a vacuum gauge on the full intake manifold vacuum? It may be able to help you diagnose other things too, like valve or timing issues.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 10:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Econoline 150
My '91 300EFI has a bad stumbling problem except when you hammer it; and at idle (only in park) the RPMS drop to the point it almost stalls, then shoots up. You put her in drive, it doesnt do that.

I have new fuel filter, put on a TPS (throttle positioning sensor) and a new MAP sensor. They plugged my van in at the auto parts store cant get a fault reading.
Any ideas ?
If the folks at the parts store are agreeable, try a wiggle test. Plug in the scanner and follow the instructions for the test. Wiggling the wires on the sensors can sometimes reveal a bad connector.
I agree with AB, though. sounds a lot like a vacuum leak. check the intake manifold gasket and every place air can get into the intake.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 12:31 PM
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pull the throttle body off and give it a good cleaning ! you have carbon build up around the butterflies and that is not letting enough air in at idol !
 
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Wyowanderer
If the folks at the parts store are agreeable, try a wiggle test. Plug in the scanner and follow the instructions for the test. Wiggling the wires on the sensors can sometimes reveal a bad connector.
I agree with AB, though. sounds a lot like a vacuum leak. check the intake manifold gasket and every place air can get into the intake.
Thanks, you think it could be a Idle Air Control ?
 
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Old Nov 17, 2010 | 08:02 PM
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the IAC is part of the throttle body and that part can also carbon up and stop working !!
 
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 01:49 AM
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Have you tried disconnecting the battery overnight? sometimes the computer gets scrambled and it will reset when it's disconnected.
 
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Old Nov 18, 2010 | 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Econoline 150
My '91 300EFI has a bad stumbling problem except when you hammer it; and at idle (only in park) the RPMS drop to the point it almost stalls, then shoots up. You put her in drive, it doesnt do that.

I have new fuel filter, put on a TPS (throttle positioning sensor) and a new MAP sensor. They plugged my van in at the auto parts store cant get a fault reading.
Any ideas ?

you can run your own diag test that will flash out engine check light codes look it up here how to do this wait here is the link to the thread
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by cj06
pull the throttle body off and give it a good cleaning ! you have carbon build up around the butterflies and that is not letting enough air in at idol !
Today I did just that; it was N-A-S-T-Y, I went through 2 throttle body/carb cleaner jumbo cans
It seemed to run better but at idle it still fluctuates and stumbles when accelerating (though it seems to be doing better)
Any other ideas ? I really like this old van, but its pushing my patience
 
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by econoshorty
Have you tried disconnecting the battery overnight? sometimes the computer gets scrambled and it will reset when it's disconnected.
Kind of did that, I could do it again I suppose (I had the alternator rebuilt)

And I thank you all for your advice
 
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Old Nov 19, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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have you checked to see if the IAC motor is working properly , the idol may be set to low !!
 
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Old Nov 21, 2010 | 12:28 AM
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pour 4 OZ of acetone /nail polish remover in the tank believe me it works makes the injectors like new in one tank i saw noticable performance in about 50 miles of driving

try a clifford 270 cam ...i have owned four f150s all with the 4.9 -6 and the one i just bought is the only one that does not stumble in the low end has this cam ....cam it.... if you read most all EFI f 150s have this problem ...the fuel mixture in the low end rpms it to rich the clifford cam corrects this other cams may also
 
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Old Nov 22, 2010 | 08:43 AM
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Have you checked all of your vacuum lines as AB suggested? What you've described is a classic symtom of vacuum leak, the FPR is vacuum referenced.
 
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Ok guys, here's a new one: my 94 stumbles and stalls until it finally dies unless you either give it fuel or put the transmission in P or N to let the engine s' rpms raise back up.....the kicker? It only does this occasionally when I stop at say, a stop sign, red light, etc.....And now it's developed into doing it every time I put it into reverse....Any info is appreciated
 
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Old Nov 23, 2010 | 11:34 PM
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how many miles on it ? have you checked the fuel filter ?
 
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