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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 12:00 PM
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2008 4.0 Will not start.

Turns over, starts, immediately dies. Checked 30a fuse. Checked fuel reset. Gonna try disconnecting battery for jollies. Any thoughts? No previous symptoms or problems. Vehicle is a salvage repair and does not qualify for warranty.
Decided to try the gas cap for vacuum, now turns over runs 2-3 seconds, sputters and then dies.
Brother came over and we kept trying and got it to start and fully depressed the gas pedal with the result of sputtering and backfire. He seems to think it is something to do with the ignition coil. He is going to test for spark on each plug tomorrow. A side note, we did notice water dripping from muffler underneath. We had rain yesterday, but it did look like it was coming out of the muffler...
 
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 04:17 PM
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Check fuel pressure. Any codes?
 
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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Check the air intake for blockage
 
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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No codes, air intake clean...What do you think of the throttle control sensor. Looks like the rebuilder put an old one on. It had gunk on it. It has ran fine for a year, though. Got gas Tuesday night, would not run correct on Wednesday. I can get it to run for several minutes, and it starts trying to suck air, and dies.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 05:36 PM
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Most of the time, it is very hard to even get it to start. It will chug after and if you rev it, seems to run, then after a few minutes, chugs and dies.
PS...it only has 21000 miles on it. Just seems that part was a lot older than what should have been there. It had a lot of crud whereas the rest of the parts in there didn't.
PS.PS.Thanks for the input.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Dobie1983
No codes, air intake clean... Got gas Tuesday night, would not run correct on Wednesday. I can get it to run for several minutes, and it starts trying to suck air, and dies.
Given the above statement, it might be wise to check for water in the gas, the symptoms are similar...
 
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 11:35 PM
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Difficult Starting:
Possible Sources:
Damaged ignition system
Damaged fuel system
Damaged starting system, probably not this since it starts
Burnt valve
Worn piston
Worn cylinder
Damaged head gasket
Damaged cooling system.

So break it down, start at zero. AKA Top Dead Center on piston 1.
 
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 11:43 PM
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Might be a clogged cat?
 
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 11:45 PM
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Why is it a salvage vehicle? What was replaced or fixed by the rebuilder?
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 08:49 PM
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Good thoughts, some I really don't "want" to consider, though!
 
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 08:33 PM
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some more thoughts

Have a look at the brake booster vacuum hose that connects to intake manifold on the driver's side of the engine. make sure it is connected at both ends.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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Okay, poured some fuel dry in and ran it for awhile. It is starting, but have to rev it to keep it running and smooth out the idle. Did check the brake booster vacuum hose and it is all good. Ran it down the road and it bogged down but pumped and kept it running. Ran it for another 4 miles but still doesn't feel right. I just do not understand how something can occur so sudden. I thought fuel pump problems where progressive and not sudden. I am going to try to run the gas until it gets lower and put some new in and maybe another bottle of fuel dry....I am on lay off and really can't afford to have a mechanic play with it either. The last vehicle I let one play with to get it running cost $500 bucks and he replaced some of the same parts I had all ready tried. Ended up being a vacuum leak he found with a smoke test....Probably a dollar rubber hose....
 
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