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Old 10-18-2010, 12:37 PM
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As far as a clutch, Valair is deemed the best over and over again. In addition to quality their customer service is 2nd to none. Other use Southbend and seem to like it as well. Best thing to do is call Valair and tell them what you have and your plans for it. They'll guide you to a perfect match. Also tell them Cody with Death Row Diesel sent you and you may get a pretty good deal. They also sell them in kits which is good for you. Comes with solid mass flywheel, pilot bushing, throwout bearing, and clutch.

The transfer cases are very similar. Both chain driven and maybe even the same pump. The 4407 has a slightly heavier duty case and is less susceptible to leaking at the rear. You can swap the slip yoke and the flange on your drivelines to keep your 4407. I had to add a 1" steel spacer between the flange and t case because of a slight variance in length. Went to a fastener store and got some grade 8 bolts one inch longer than the originals and back in business. 0 balance issues after 4 months, knock on wood.

It may be easier to do an EBPV delete with the tranny out due to easier access to the rear of the turbo pedestal. Also check your oil pan, front main, and rear main seals for leaks. Although not too common it happens and if so the changing of those may be easiest now. Glowplugs, injectors, UVCH, etc may be easier as well with no trans in too but dunno if it makes a difference but I spect it should be way easier to drain the fuel rails.

Not sure about the pedals from the 92. I believe the cutoff is 92 or 93 and I'm not positive. Not sure about from F150 either.

Get a pre-bled master/slave set from the stealership for your 97 truck.
 
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Oops. Duplicate post.
 
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Ok i will definetly check into the Valair clutch.

The PCM is that the whole computer for the truck?

And will a PCM from a early 1999 with a six speed work?
 
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Ok i will definetly check into the Valair clutch.

The PCM is that the whole computer for the truck?

And will a PCM from a early 1999 with a six speed work?
The PCM commands most everything. The IDM speaks directly to the injectors but recieves its info from the PCM. You do not need to swap your IDM. I don't think a super duty PCM will work but someone else will know for sure.
 
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I can use my stock Auto PCM...And just order a chip from DP tuner, for a Manual truck and it will run like it should correct?
 
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I can use my stock Auto PCM...And just order a chip from DP tuner, for a Manual truck and it will run like it should correct?
Yep. Well, it at least runs and runs well anyway. I've heard the idle is a touch different and the throttle a bit jumpy with the auto PCM on a 5 spd. My throttle does appear a bit jumpy but the idle seems fine and it runs well. Just tell whoever does your tunes to burn the chip for a 5 speed. In the meantime if you want, some shops will reflash your PCM fairly cheap.
 
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Thanks! Im going to start the swap in a few weeks..Gotta order the chip and manifolds and a clutch now...So it will all be here on time.
 
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I believe that pedals from a 92-97 F150, 250, or 350 will work

And definately go with Valair. If you tow a lot the Kevlar/Ceramic would be great!
 
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So if i keep my auto pcm, I need or should have it chiped and for a manual? Like a 6 position chip or something different?

I am having a hard time figuring out what stacking of chips is exactly? and whats the point?
 
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Don't stack chips (I don't think you can on ours anyways) but it can overfuel it and kill things.

I'd go with a good 6 position chip from PHP, TW, or DP Tuner burned for a manual. That will take care of all of your needs.
 
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ok so not to sound like a total newb, wich i am i cant understand half of these abbrivations that you are using.
 
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ok so not to sound like a total newb, wich i am i cant understand half of these abbrivations that you are using.
If you are talking about brownie's last post PHP, DP, and TW are brands of tuners you can buy. PHP=Power Hungry Performance, TW=Tony Wildman, and I'm not sure about DP.
 
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yeah those and there have been others that i usual see when guys on here are talking about mods and I am at a total loss.
 
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Well, let's see: TC=torque converter or transfer case depending on context, EBPV=exhaust back pressure valve, EBPS=exhaust back pressure sensor, WOT=wide open throttle, LS=limited slip, CPP=clutch pedal position, HPX=high pressure crossover, HPOP=high pressure oil pump, KOEO=key on engine off, KEOR=key on engine running, IDM=injector driver module, ICP=injector control pressure, IPR=injector pressure regulator, FPR=fuel pressure regulator, BTS=brians truck shop, DC%=duty cycle %, 6637=style of air intake system, DRW=dual rear wheel, SRW=single rear wheel, CCSB/CCLB=crew cab short/long bed, GPR=glow plug relay

That's all I can think of for now man. Took me some time to learn them too.
 
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that definetly helps
 


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