54' f350 4x4 front axle
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Ken - One of my axles has the same problem. But I've found a spare axle, so won't be faced with having to weld up the fractured one. Since yours is the only F-350 we know of, you may have no option but to find a good blacksmith to repair yours. Unless, like Owen said on an eariler thread, you find an Eldorado or Power Wagon stub that could be machined to work. Stu
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HI Stu I was afraid that might be what was gonna happen...I won't be trashing on this old girl but if I can get useable parts for her..I would feel safer investing in that then trying to rebuild this piece ..I talked to Chuck "the all knowing one.."and even he say's chances are slim to nill...I have seen in a 4X4 magazine where they made new shafts with C-V joints like on the new truck but at 1500 buck or more...there Has to be more then one front end out there!! from a 350 ford...this is not that unique just rare..on a good note the new gas tank showed up today at least that is the same as to baby 100 and lightweight 250 trucks ..
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Ken - Thinking back to earlier discussions on this, I'm not sure we've settled whether your front axle is the Timken B-150 (to match the standard F-350 rear) or whether it might be the Timken A-150 like was used in the F-250s. The latter would seem possible if you think about other trucks that combined a Dana 60 rear with a lighter duty Dana 44 front. If your front axle is the same as was used on the F-250s you could work with Owen (1952) on acquiring his spare. He lives in southern Oregon, so that wouldn't be a terrible distance to have to ship or to go pick up the axle. Just a thought. If you want to take some pictures of your front, including the center section and pinion housing, I'll look at them and post them for you. If you didn't save my email address from before let me know and I'll email you. I'm pretty sure I saved your earlier email. Stu
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thank's the other fellow got Owen's axle...I was too slow...have you found ANY sites for our orphans??? I can't belive we have the last one ton 4X4's with broken parts..my buddy with the power wagons has 5 bolt wheels and he dosn't think we run similer parts,,,it is frustrating to see a ford truck with 5 bolt rims and it's a bigger truck !!!
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Remember, there is a slim chance that a stub from a WW2 IHC M-2-4 could work. These aren't exactly common, but I think I could put my hands on one for you. I'll ask around for some measurements. I restored some WW2 vehicle fuel pumps for a fellow in Portland who has some M-2-4s. I will ask him if he has some axles apart. I have an M-1-4 (same running gear), but it is together, painted, etc. so not in a big hurry to tear it apart.
These have the Rzeppa joints in the front end, and if the shafts/splines measure correctly, it might be your best hope.
These have the Rzeppa joints in the front end, and if the shafts/splines measure correctly, it might be your best hope.
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I didn't know that Owen had settled it with the other fellow. Glad for him, sorry for you. If Chuck has no sources, I certainly don't either. Keep in mind that my axles are different than yours. Mine are the Timken Model 51524. I have a spare Power Wagon front axle too, but that won't do you much good. I can assure you the Dodge parts are different than your Timkens, much heavier construction, but the same basic knuckle and stub concept was used on both I'm sure. The 5 lug hubs on the Dodge are unique to it too. They used a 5 lug x 6 7/8" bolt circle where my MH used 5 x 8". Yours has the later 6 lug x 7.25" pattern. The 5 studs on mine, and on the Dodge, are 3/4" x 16 tpi. Yours are 5/8" x 18 tpi. Maybe you are left with finding a blacksmith and machinist.
Edit - I was typing on top of Owen. Hope his idea works for you. Stu
Edit - I was typing on top of Owen. Hope his idea works for you. Stu
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Ken - Thinking back to earlier discussions on this, I'm not sure we've settled whether your front axle is the Timken B-150 (to match the standard F-350 rear) or whether it might be the Timken A-150 like was used in the F-250s. The latter would seem possible if you think about other trucks that combined a Dana 60 rear with a lighter duty Dana 44 front. If your front axle is the same as was used on the F-250s you could work with Owen (1952) on acquiring his spare. He lives in southern Oregon, so that wouldn't be a terrible distance to have to ship or to go pick up the axle. Just a thought. If you want to take some pictures of your front, including the center section and pinion housing, I'll look at them and post them for you. If you didn't save my email address from before let me know and I'll email you. I'm pretty sure I saved your earlier email. Stu
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Am I right that it's the fellow in MN that wrote me looking for one? Glad you worked it out with him. Have you discussed what he plans to do for transfer case, linkage, etc. Maybe just use modern pieces. Stu
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Remember, there is a slim chance that a stub from a WW2 IHC M-2-4 could work. These aren't exactly common, but I think I could put my hands on one for you. I'll ask around for some measurements. I restored some WW2 vehicle fuel pumps for a fellow in Portland who has some M-2-4s. I will ask him if he has some axles apart. I have an M-1-4 (same running gear), but it is together, painted, etc. so not in a big hurry to tear it apart.
These have the Rzeppa joints in the front end, and if the shafts/splines measure correctly, it might be your best hope.
These have the Rzeppa joints in the front end, and if the shafts/splines measure correctly, it might be your best hope.
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Then, there was Mack, which used all gears to make their turning knuckles. Very, very large pieces!
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You are correct! I suggested some different types of transfer cases, then I talked to Chuck and he said, wisely, to tell the fellow to find a transfer case from a 1.5 ton M-H as they aren't really hard to find. I had suggested different types, all gear driven to provide the customary noise produced by the older transfer cases!
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You are correct! I suggested some different types of transfer cases, then I talked to Chuck and he said, wisely, to tell the fellow to find a transfer case from a 1.5 ton M-H as they aren't really hard to find. I had suggested different types, all gear driven to provide the customary noise produced by the older transfer cases!
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