ya no hondas rust.

 

ps. this honda isnt rusted either.

 

Those are from the 1980's.

Guys see rust on their new ford trucks within 6 months (body/bumpers).

 

OK, that might be a stretch. 6 months? They'd all be right back in the dealership for a new truck or bodywork. I live in possibly one of the worst areas for rust and I'm not seeing this.

But I do also think its unfair to use those old Hondas as rust examples.

 

3 Complaints: 1997 Honda Passport Frame Is Rusting Out

no car is rust exempt. unless its made of material other then metal.

 

The honda passport was built by isuzu...

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_Passport

 

There has been many posts about it like this one.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...t-already.html

 

Being in the auto repair industry, i have yet to see any make of vehicle made from steel that doesnt rust, be it asian,american or european. Some do better than others, but for some reason trucks of all types fair the worst.

 

heres our 2000 ex with 228,000 miles on it all living in alaska.

 

Skip, that underside looks really nice and clean. My question: do the AK road crews throw down massive amounts of salt? Have you had your Excursion ever undercoated?

 

From what I hear from other Alaskins is they don't use any salt.


Here is a ford that sees salt Skip.








Look how even a thick frame rots away, what do you think will happen to a thinner box frame?

 

OK, I think this argument is really a non starter.

Box frame pros: potentially lighter / stronger / stiffer than C-channel, thereby enhancing towing and payload capacities, as well as greatly improving ride quality, and possibly fuel economy and acceleration. Cons: as frame rusts, it becomes weaker quicker due to thinner steel. Also may be more prone to internal rust.

C-channel frame pros: easier for upfitters to mount equipment; usually easier to change brake lines and / or fuel lines. Thicker steel weakens less quickly as it rusts. Cons: frame flex results in worse ride quality, thicker steel needed to support the C-channel results in a heavier frame, decreasing payload / towing / mpg / performance.

So basically the complaint about the box frame is rust. I'm quite certain by spending $100-150 a year for a quality undercoating, an individual can protect the frame from having any rust form, internally or externally, boxed or c-channel, for 10 or more years, maybe indefinitely. That basically takes rust out of the equation for either frame, leaving the boxed frame with all of the advantages. Upfitters can adapt mounting designs, and of course, they will.

 

ya not a fan of box frames myself. i guess its the fear of unknown that goes on inside the boxed frame that really freaks me out, you dont know tell its to late when they rust out, i had an isuzu that rusted from the inside out that was boxed...

yes they use salt mixed with sand and gravel here. not as much as down there tho, but they have been using some new liquid salt the last couple years in the anchorage area.

 

I've got a friend moving to Juneau in a couple of weeks...Subaru though.

If drain holes are in the right place on a boxed frame, then no issue. We ran Land Rovers / Range Rovers for the last 13 years, all with boxed frames, and had no issues. None of them were ever undercoated.

But, a quality undercoating shop will coat the inside of the frame with a light application of their product, thereby stopping internal rust from forming.

I have no problem with the C-frame, and I like the 'heft' of it. My big complaint has to do with frame flex and ride quality.