EGR issues - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums



6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

EGR issues

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread
  #1  
Old 04-18-2010, 01:55 AM
bkuuz1 bkuuz1 is online now
Elder User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Brighton CO.
Posts: 604
bkuuz1 is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
EGR issues

Hello, looking for a few answers about the EGR valves. A friend mine has a 6.0. (I have a 7.3 myself) His truck started running roof. Dealer changed original EGR. (#2) EGR went bad and replaced after 2,000 miles,(#3) EGR was replaced by dealer after 500 miles. Currently he's on the #4 EGR with about 50 miles.

Any ides?

Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-18-2010, 02:27 AM
mohle's Avatar
mohle mohle is offline
Elder User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Carvel, AB, Canada
Posts: 528
mohle is starting off with a positive reputation.
Is the dealer checking the oil cooler when replacing the EGR cooler?
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-18-2010, 02:55 AM
bkuuz1 bkuuz1 is online now
Elder User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Brighton CO.
Posts: 604
bkuuz1 is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Sorry, I don't have a clue what the dealer checking. What would I need to look for? What the issue issue?

Thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-18-2010, 04:40 AM
liv liv is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Kansas City/Breckenridge
Posts: 1,078
liv is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Quote:
Originally Posted by mohle View Post
Is the dealer checking the oil cooler when replacing the EGR cooler?
He said they are replacing the valve not the cooler.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-18-2010, 07:38 AM
bismic's Avatar
bismic bismic is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 15,132
bismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputation
<TABLE style="WIDTH: 674pt; BORDER-COLLAPSE: collapse" border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=899 x:str><COLGROUP><COL style="WIDTH: 674pt; mso-width-source: userset; mso-width-alt: 32877" width=899><TBODY><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 674pt; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl24 height=17 width=899>Causes of Coking (TSB 08-2-7); DETERMINE THE ROOT CAUSE:</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 25.5pt" height=34><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 674pt; HEIGHT: 25.5pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl25 height=34 width=899>Un-combusted fuel is usually evident as fuel scented white exhaust smoke. Un-combusted fuel may create coking which impairs system functionality eventually leading to black exhaust smoke/poorly combusted fuel.</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 674pt; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl26 height=17 width=899></TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 674pt; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl25 height=17 width=899 x:str="'- Poor fuel - replace with good fuel and use a good fuel additive (Stanadyne Performance Formula or Ford PM-22-A or PM-23-A)">- Poor fuel - replace with good fuel and use a good fuel additive (Stanadyne Performance Formula or Ford PM-22-A or PM-23-A)</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 674pt; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl25 height=17 width=899 x:str="'- Excessive idling">- Excessive idling</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 25.5pt" height=34><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 674pt; HEIGHT: 25.5pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl25 height=34 width=899 x:str="'- Excessive fuel (note fuel pressure must be kept over 45 psig, to avoid injector damage). Check for DTC's, injector problems could cause excessive fuel flow.">- Excessive fuel (note fuel pressure must be kept over 45 psig, to avoid injector damage). Check for DTC's, injector problems could cause excessive fuel flow.</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 25.5pt" height=34><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 674pt; HEIGHT: 25.5pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl25 height=34 width=899 x:str="'- Engine oil: thickened engine oil and poor maintenance can delay commanded injector response, caused by wrong oil viscosity or excessive OCI.">- Engine oil: thickened engine oil and poor maintenance can delay commanded injector response, caused by wrong oil viscosity or excessive OCI.</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 25.5pt" height=34><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 674pt; HEIGHT: 25.5pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl25 height=34 width=899 x:str="'- Engine oil: oil carryover to air inlet system caused by restricted air filter element pulling in oil from ccv, high crankcase pressure, or turbo oil leak.">- Engine oil: oil carryover to air inlet system caused by restricted air filter element pulling in oil from ccv, high crankcase pressure, or turbo oil leak.</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 674pt; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl25 height=17 width=899 x:str="'- Excessive EGR flow. Correct with newer flash or check for bad EGR valve and correct.">- Excessive EGR flow. Correct with newer flash or check for bad EGR valve and correct.</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 674pt; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl25 height=17 width=899 x:str="'- Delayed injection event caused by FICM wire chaffing, FICM calibration, or injector mechanical issues.">- Delayed injection event caused by FICM wire chaffing, FICM calibration, or injector mechanical issues.</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 15.75pt" height=21><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 674pt; HEIGHT: 15.75pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl27 height=21 width=899 x:str="'- The most recent calibration flash will help reduce coking deposit formation by improving:">- The recent calibration flash will help reduce coking deposit formation by improving:</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 12.75pt" height=17><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; HEIGHT: 12.75pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl28 height=17>Shut off EGR after 5 minutes of idling. Reduces the amount of hard to combust elements in the combustion chamber.</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 25.5pt" height=34><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 674pt; HEIGHT: 25.5pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl29 height=34 width=899 x:str="Injection timing improvements at 1100-1800 RPM (Typical range for PTO operation/Cold Ambient Protection Idle Kicker/Battery Charge Protect Idle Kicker). ">Injection timing improvements at 1100-1800 RPM (Typical range for PTO operation/Cold Ambient Protection Idle Kicker/Battery Charge Protect Idle Kicker). </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 25.5pt" height=34><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 674pt; HEIGHT: 25.5pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl29 height=34 width=899>Increased exhaust pressure / VGT Duty Cycle for APCM or PTO commanded engine speeds. Maintains heat in the combustion chamber.</TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 25.5pt" height=34><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 0.5pt solid; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 674pt; HEIGHT: 25.5pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl29 height=34 width=899 x:str="Higher engine temperature required for cold ambient idle kicker to switch off. Idle will remain elevated until driver input is observed by powertrain control module (PCM). Maintains heat in the combustion chamber. ">Higher engine temperature required for cold ambient idle kicker to switch off. Idle will remain elevated until driver input is observed by powertrain control module (PCM). Maintains heat in the combustion chamber. </TD></TR><TR style="HEIGHT: 13.5pt" height=18><TD style="BORDER-BOTTOM: #ece9d8; BORDER-LEFT: windowtext 1pt solid; BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent; WIDTH: 674pt; HEIGHT: 13.5pt; BORDER-TOP: windowtext; BORDER-RIGHT: windowtext 1pt solid" class=xl30 height=18 width=899 x:str="Improved EGR throttle plate self test. Better control of hard to combust elements. ">Improved EGR throttle plate self test. Better control of hard to combust elements. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-18-2010, 07:41 AM
bismic's Avatar
bismic bismic is offline
Post Fiend
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Posts: 15,132
bismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputationbismic has a superb reputation
You need to tell us what year model and if he has any mods.

ALSO - Low system voltage can cause problems w/ the Fuel Injection Control Module and can cause poor combustion. Make sure your batteries are strong (load test individually).

What is your practice on fuel and oil filter changes? How long do you go and what filters do you use? What oil are you using? Is it in good shape (not thick and not a heavy fuel smell)?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-18-2010, 11:04 AM
dschuffert's Avatar
dschuffert dschuffert is offline
Posting Guru
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Illinois
Posts: 1,082
dschuffert is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.dschuffert is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Hey bkuuzz1, you need to give us much more detail such as year of truck, how many miles, any custom modifications, any special fluids added, etc. That is the only way we can help you. Otherwise we are all guessing and posting solutions that may not fit your problem.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-18-2010, 01:14 PM
bkuuz1 bkuuz1 is online now
Elder User
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Brighton CO.
Posts: 604
bkuuz1 is gaining momentum as a positive member of FTE.
Fellows thanks for the replies, Sorry I don't have the basic info that I knew you guys would need to help trouble shoot. All I know is it is a 6.0. I was asking the question to try and find out if that engine had a particular problem that would cause the issue with the EGR. Looks like it could be one of many. I'll let him know the issues you guys have posted and let him decide from her what he wants to do.

Thanks for all your help. It's time to go shoot some clays.

Thanks again.
Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Another P401 EGR problem cekingsley 3.8 & 4.2L V6 4 09-28-2013 04:27 PM
Could a clogged EGR cause high ECT JJ1101 6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 19 03-09-2012 11:32 AM
Egr Valve unplug? Troubleshooting. luketrot 6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2 09-18-2010 06:47 PM
EGR Issues...Should I Replace? BUSTMUP 6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 10 05-30-2007 10:44 PM
2001 4.6 Supercrew P0401 code RGrimes 1997 - 2003 F150 3 02-07-2006 01:36 PM


Go Back   Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums >

Tags
60l, egr, f250, ford, functionality, issue, issues, problems, test

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:35 AM.


This forum is owned and operated by Internet Brands, Inc., a Delaware corporation. It is not authorized or endorsed by the Ford Motor Company and is not affiliated with the Ford Motor Company or its related companies in any way. FordŽ is a registered trademark of the Ford Motor Company.