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Engine Swap with Fuel Injection 50 F-1

Have a chance to put a 90 5.0 FE engine in my truck and I get the whole car for nothing with low miles. How much trouble or how many hurdles need to be jumped to put this engine in a 50 F-1. Has anyone done it?
 
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several guy's on here have done it i believe , and 1 gent , larry who has inspired some madness on my behalf on an extra frame , put the entire suspension and 4.6 , everything out of a 95 bird like my beater , into a bonus built . keep the wiring harness , all of it , and weed out what you don't need on the truck and it could make the job much simpler and cost effective . many co's offer complete wiring harnesses for this kind af a swap .the 5.0 / 302 is about as easy and common swap as you can find , and speedway , trans dapt , and others sell the mount kits . keep everything you can until your done too ..... i've had so many parts , either lost to eternity in the black hole , or just got tossed , that i now need for various things from so many donors ..............
 
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I'm getting ready to put one in my 53. The short block comes on Wednesday. After that, we'll see what transpires.
 
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Originally Posted by bluesclu978
Have a chance to put a 90 5.0 FE engine in my truck and I get the whole car for nothing with low miles. How much trouble or how many hurdles need to be jumped to put this engine in a 50 F-1. Has anyone done it?
I have a Fox sitting in my garage, and I am thinking about going down the same road. Speaking from personal experience with conversions, get the Mustang, complete, and start swapping things over and do not get rid of anything from your donor car. Sooner or later you will need a part that you remember throwing away. Plus there are plenty of Mustang guys who will want/need any extra parts you have and don't need.
 
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In addition to all the electrical wiring and sensors necessary to run EFI, there's also the minor matter of a little fuel line plumbing. And it may take a little work to install if you're using the stock, in-the-cab tank. You need to work out a high pressure fuel pump from the tank to the engine, and a return line from the engine back to the tank. Since the stock tank outlet is on the bottom of the tank (which isn't exactly very safe, nor is it DOT approved by today's standards) you'd need to plumb the return inside the cab and going into the top of the tank.

Factory EFI gas tanks had the fuel pump inside the tank. That's a little harder to do with the in-cab tank, so if going that route, you'll need to mount one on the frame. This might be a good time to consider replacing the tank with something more modern and moving it to the rear of the frame. It would make your plumbing issues easier, be able to utilize an in-tank pump, and free up some space behind the seat.
 
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You can get a complete harness from thedetailzone.com for $550 or $525 depending if you use mass air flow or not. I used one from them and was well pleased altough it cost more for the 4.6.
 
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Swap

You'll need to take a look at steering linkage clearance, as well as possible exhaust clearance.

I used the donor wiring harness, EEC IV, etc.
 
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Originally Posted by 52 Merc
In addition to all the electrical wiring and sensors necessary to run EFI, there's also the minor matter of a little fuel line plumbing. And it may take a little work to install if you're using the stock, in-the-cab tank. You need to work out a high pressure fuel pump from the tank to the engine, and a return line from the engine back to the tank. Since the stock tank outlet is on the bottom of the tank (which isn't exactly very safe, nor is it DOT approved by today's standards) you'd need to plumb the return inside the cab and going into the top of the tank.

Factory EFI gas tanks had the fuel pump inside the tank. That's a little harder to do with the in-cab tank, so if going that route, you'll need to mount one on the frame. This might be a good time to consider replacing the tank with something more modern and moving it to the rear of the frame. It would make your plumbing issues easier, be able to utilize an in-tank pump, and free up some space behind the seat.
If you can get a late model 4.6 I think 99 or newer they do not have a return fuel line. Also Areomotive and host of other companies make an external fuel pump that will handle the needs of EFI up to 1100 HP.

I am putting a 01 Cobra engine in my truck. The issue I have is that I do not know if I want to go EFI or do Carbs. Either way the engine will look bad *** in the truck.
 
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so I don't really know much about the EFI systems so to make it a carb motor is there anything special that needs to be done or can I swithch the intake out and run a carb that way?
 
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I'm assuming that you'll have to modify the ignition also.
 
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so I don't really know much about the EFI systems so to make it a carb motor is there anything special that needs to be done or can I swithch the intake out and run a carb that way?
Sure, you can do that, depending on the engine you're using. If you're using a 302, for instance, all you need is a non-computer distributor,with your traditional intake and carb, and you're good to go. If your plans include something more modern, likt the 4.6 Ford modular engine, they are distributorless and the ignition is controlled solely by electronics. That will be a little tougher to do, but kits are available to make it happen.
 
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