Ford AOD trans in a 77' 2WD 150?
#1
Ford AOD trans in a 77' 2WD 150?
Ok,
__I know it's been done in the 4WD models.
But here is what I want to know.
Has anyone managed to put a ford AOD trans into 73-79 with a 302ci, 2WD F-150?
I have a 77' 150 with a 302ci, C-4HD trans, W/ a 9-inch axle.
Is there a BOLT-IN method using stock parts?
1. Will I be using my old crossmember?
2. Are the transmissions the same length's?
3. Can I use my old driveshaft?
4. Is it possible to keep my stock collem shifter? (79' tilt)
5. Will I need to perchase custom parts like a TV cable, & dipstick-tube?
Asking this because I am wanting to replace my trans with a new rebuilt one. But I figured if it was possible, I'd like to upgrade to a overdrive & get better towing & gas-mileage.
Later.
PS Yes I've found & read the article;
https://www.ford-trucks.com/article/...rd_Bronco.html
& got some insight on the sub'. But it covers B-blocks & 4WD only.
.
__I know it's been done in the 4WD models.
But here is what I want to know.
Has anyone managed to put a ford AOD trans into 73-79 with a 302ci, 2WD F-150?
I have a 77' 150 with a 302ci, C-4HD trans, W/ a 9-inch axle.
Is there a BOLT-IN method using stock parts?
1. Will I be using my old crossmember?
2. Are the transmissions the same length's?
3. Can I use my old driveshaft?
4. Is it possible to keep my stock collem shifter? (79' tilt)
5. Will I need to perchase custom parts like a TV cable, & dipstick-tube?
Asking this because I am wanting to replace my trans with a new rebuilt one. But I figured if it was possible, I'd like to upgrade to a overdrive & get better towing & gas-mileage.
Later.
PS Yes I've found & read the article;
https://www.ford-trucks.com/article/...rd_Bronco.html
& got some insight on the sub'. But it covers B-blocks & 4WD only.
.
#2
Yes! This is exactly what I did. I have a '76 F100 with a 302. I got an AOD out of a '88 Crown Vic. This is a straight bolt in.
2 things that you will need to do:
a) get a TV cable for the shiftdown features. This is a must and it must be adjusted properly otherwise you will quickly burn up the trans.
b) you will need to extend the length of the shifter arm where it attaches to the trans.
I bought the TV cable from Lokar and it works great.
Here is a link to my writeup on my website:
The Street Slammer Project Transmission
Go for it and if you have any questions to not hesitate to give me a shout.
Mark
2 things that you will need to do:
a) get a TV cable for the shiftdown features. This is a must and it must be adjusted properly otherwise you will quickly burn up the trans.
b) you will need to extend the length of the shifter arm where it attaches to the trans.
I bought the TV cable from Lokar and it works great.
Here is a link to my writeup on my website:
The Street Slammer Project Transmission
Go for it and if you have any questions to not hesitate to give me a shout.
Mark
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So, it is a direct bolt-in.
Mark
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#9
I think he was saying something about the carbureted engines with their power band and the AOD not matching up. Basically, too low of an RPM at typical highway driving speeds.
#10
I have a 600 cfm Holley carb on my 302 with AOD and it runs just fine. Highway and city, no problems at all.
If your buddy is thinking of an AOD-E then he may be right since they require some computer bs to work properly but I don't have any computers on my '76.
#11
What? There are carbed 351's out there too.
I have a 600 cfm Holley carb on my 302 with AOD and it runs just fine. Highway and city, no problems at all.
If your buddy is thinking of an AOD-E then he may be right since they require some computer bs to work properly but I don't have any computers on my '76.
I have a 600 cfm Holley carb on my 302 with AOD and it runs just fine. Highway and city, no problems at all.
If your buddy is thinking of an AOD-E then he may be right since they require some computer bs to work properly but I don't have any computers on my '76.
#12
So,
__isn't the shift arm/link differn't lenth's between the C-6 & the C-4?
If I remember correctly the C-6 is longer than the C-4's
I'm not sure...
#13
Not sure if this is right, but i have been told that an AOD is a C-4 with OD. No difference besides the main case is longer, but the tailshaft is shorter. Once agian, not verifiable, but possibly right.
As far as being underpowered, 302's through the 70's and early 80's were definately not know for their power, no engine was. Theyre reffered to as smog engines for a reason. All engines through that era were low compression big combustion chambered, undercammed, and had retarded timing, aka a factory detune, in order to clean up emmisions, sadly this also killed about 35% of the engines net horespower. Also, the AOD iirc has the highest overdrive percent of all the overdrive transmissions, couple that with an unfavorable rear gear and you end up always droppin a gear to keep speed. My dads 96 dodge does this, 318 auto OD, 3.55 gears and 35's. Unless you drive 80+ it will consistantly lose a little speed until it grabs 3rd and speeds back up.
As far as why youre doing the swap, more gear wont necessarily improve gas mileage and in fact can make it worse. Secondly, i dont see how OD will increase towing capabilities unless you plan to go with lower (numerically higher) gears in the rear to help down low, in which case you would still have around the same final gear ratio. If you would like the truck to get better fuel mileage, i suggest a mild cam, a decent intake, some headers, and a 570 holley or 550-600 edeljunk. And if you can manage a set of heads off a pre 1972 or so 302 they will bump the compression up a touch and offer better head flow.
As far as being underpowered, 302's through the 70's and early 80's were definately not know for their power, no engine was. Theyre reffered to as smog engines for a reason. All engines through that era were low compression big combustion chambered, undercammed, and had retarded timing, aka a factory detune, in order to clean up emmisions, sadly this also killed about 35% of the engines net horespower. Also, the AOD iirc has the highest overdrive percent of all the overdrive transmissions, couple that with an unfavorable rear gear and you end up always droppin a gear to keep speed. My dads 96 dodge does this, 318 auto OD, 3.55 gears and 35's. Unless you drive 80+ it will consistantly lose a little speed until it grabs 3rd and speeds back up.
As far as why youre doing the swap, more gear wont necessarily improve gas mileage and in fact can make it worse. Secondly, i dont see how OD will increase towing capabilities unless you plan to go with lower (numerically higher) gears in the rear to help down low, in which case you would still have around the same final gear ratio. If you would like the truck to get better fuel mileage, i suggest a mild cam, a decent intake, some headers, and a 570 holley or 550-600 edeljunk. And if you can manage a set of heads off a pre 1972 or so 302 they will bump the compression up a touch and offer better head flow.
#14
The AOD was the worst A/T Ford ever offered (it is not based on the C4). People drove the cars/trucks in heavy stop and go traffic in O/D.
The constant shifting up/down .. in/out of O/D fried the AOD's guts, and this did not take to long to occur, either.
The cost to overhaul an AOD properly is over two grand. Good luck finding one that does not need an overhaul.
#15
Yea, they lasted about 75 to 100k. From what i understand, it was a flaw in the parts from the factory and once rebuilt they were as fine as any other trans. At least thats what the guy who rebuilt it said. And although being the genious that you are number dummy, i will respectfully disagree... the A4LDE is imo the worst transmission ever made.