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Old 01-18-2010, 06:15 PM
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1963 F600 Brake Help

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I am a part of an auto shop on campus, and we have a 63 f600 tht we drive around campus and show off at school functions, recently the brakes went out of it. All of the fluid had leaked out of the system. First I rebuilt all of the wheel cylinders. When I pulled apart the front wheel cylinders they were completley dry inside! I the traced the lines and found that the front brake lines had been cut and do not look like they have been hooked up for some time. The line going to the rear axle was plumbed directly into the output of hydravac booster under the cab. How are the front brakes supposed to be connected to the system? Is there some type of proportioning valve that needs to be installed? Or do I just need to get a distribution block to hook all of the lines to.

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If your master cylinder is a single pot system all that is needed will be a simple block with 1 inlet and 3 outlets.
if you need to make new lines they need to be steel and need a double flare on the end.

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If your master cylinder is a single pot system all that is needed will be a simple block with 1 inlet and 3 outlets.
if you need to make new lines they need to be steel and need a double flare on the end.

Welcome to FTE, Nathan.
Not to highjack this thread But Bill, I've seen you mention this F600 you have two or three times, but I have never seen any pics...Whatcha doin with it?

Sorry, curiosity killing me

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Nothin! it just sits in my yard taking up space... i got a real good deal on it so, i bought it
68 f600 power steering (which is nice!) 460, np435 4 spd.... well used bent to hell flat bed. i had someone intrested in it, the guy came over and got it running for me! lol, but then did not buy it. the brake system needs help, hydrovac system, carb rebuilt, things like that. i filled the master and they work , well kinda.
 
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Cool, nice thing about having that 460 in there, aside from having some power, is there is plenty of good runners for out there for cheap should you ever need one.

Find a rusted out non running junker with a flatbed dump for scrap price, Then that truck will be the handiest thing you ever had


Those look like Armstrong Tru Tracks on the your Jeep, I haven't seen those in about 20 years.

I have a Jeep two

Later,

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Motorhead, if you don't have it figured out by the weekend, I can snap some pics of where my front lines hook up, but I won't be able to till the weekend. Let me know If you need them.

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it started life as a dump bed truck... but all that is gone
The only reason i bought the ****** wagon was to get the rebuilt 65 vintage 289 it came with and yea they were Armstrong tires, i sold the wagon for twice what i paid for it and kept the engine.

OK back to the thread... any luck Nathan?
 
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Originally Posted by motorhead1
Hi,

I am a part of an auto shop on campus, and we have a 63 f600 tht we drive around campus and show off at school functions, recently the brakes went out of it. All of the fluid had leaked out of the system. First I rebuilt all of the wheel cylinders. When I pulled apart the front wheel cylinders they were completley dry inside! I the traced the lines and found that the front brake lines had been cut and do not look like they have been hooked up for some time. The line going to the rear axle was plumbed directly into the output of hydravac booster under the cab. How are the front brakes supposed to be connected to the system? Is there some type of proportioning valve that needs to be installed? Or do I just need to get a distribution block to hook all of the lines to.

Thanks,
Nathan
Welcome to FTE

Your truck has a single master cylinder, so there is no proportioning valve.

With the system you have, one steel line feeds off the master cylinder, goes to a T fitting, where three steel lines attach.

One steel line goes towards the rear, one each goes towards the right & left front wheel cylinders.

Between the steel lines and the front wheel cylinders are flexible rubber hoses. There are TWO different lengths.

2) B7Q2078A .. R/L Front Brake Hose / 21 15/16" long / Obsolete

Fits: 1963 F600 before serial number 340,001.
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2) C3TZ2078C .. R/L Front Brake Hose / 23 1/4" long / Obsolete

Fits: 1963 F600 from serial number 340,001.

The serial number is the last six digits of the VIN.

While the hoses are obsolete, I found 27 of B7Q2078A & 12 of C3TZ2078C

All I need to know is which length you need, then I will list the sources.

 
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Rear Wheel Cylinders

Anybody help me with part numbers for upper and lower rear wheel cylinder?
F60CK344569
F600
Trans [f]
Axle [F1]
17000 gvw
brake shoe 15 x4

Also need a seal & gasket axle number
 
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Old 12-27-2011, 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by slim chance ranch
Anybody help me with part numbers for upper and lower rear wheel cylinder?

F60CK344569 / F600 / Trans F / Axle F1 / 17000 gvw / brake shoe 15 x 4

Also need a seal & gasket axle number
Disc or spoke wheels?
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F60 = F600 (gas).

C = 292 2V

K = Kansas City MO Assembly Plant.

344569 = 1963, assembled October 1962.

F600 (gas); 17,000 lbs. Gross Vehicle Weight Rating.

F = Borg Warner T-98 4 Speed Manual Transmission.

F1 = Eaton Two Speed Rear Axle / 5.88/8.11-1 / (1963) 15,000 lb. Rear Axle Capacity.
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2) COTT-2261-A .. R/L Upper Rear Wheel Cylinder 1 1/2" diameter / Obsolete

WILLEY INC. in Ames IA has 1 = 515-233-1913.

ANTIQUE AUTO SUPPLY in Arlington TX has 1 = 817-275-2381.

CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS in Concord NC has 1 = 800-476-9653.

No other Ford Dealer or obsolete parts vendor has any.
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2) COTT-2262-A .. R/L Lower Rear Wheel Cylinder 1 1/2" diameter / Obsolete

WESLEY OBSOLETE PARTS in Liberty KY has 2 = 606-787-5293.

BOWMAN SALES & SERVICE in Bowman ND has 2 = 701-523-3257.

CARPENTER NOS OBSOLETE PARTS has 4.

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has 21 = 800-543-4959.

NOTE: The last time I listed these wheel cylinder part numbers, someone else chimed in...said DORMAN has them.
 
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Hydrovac

Thanks for the info! Think there's a hydro-vac on the brake system. I read that it would be underneath on the drivers side? Didnt see anything.
Mike
 
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A Hydro-Vac is a remote mounted Power Brake Booster. According to the pic in the parts catalog, it's frame rail mounted on 1961/67 F600/750's.
 
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