The truck sounds like a winner to me, Im in! Once I decide to bury into more debt again.

- The auto tranny only will not bother me as you look at all the semis (semis quoted earlier) they are all going towards auto trannys' now. More n more every day I see out there with autos.

- Diesel exhaust fluid, may seem like a pain now. but in 5 years when every diesel engine mfg'r (big, medium or small) is doing it due to extreeeeeme emissions regulations, no one will ever comment again on how out of your way you have to go to add it. Just think, you live in the city? you dont do the highway driving my farm truck does, so I put a jug of bug wash in every month. I will put more washer fluid in my truck than urea. Definately wont be a hassle doin it in my books.

- Why is everyone sayin " I wont buy thge first one because the 6.0 problems" ? It is obvious, but that was navistar!!! same as the "great" 7.3, and the so far not too shabby 6.4. You mean to tell me that you will be "punishing" ford by not buying thier new engine because the, after 15 years contract with an engine manufacturers engine was a lemon to start? Buy one, bet youll be happy! I know I will be in line, ford is not the one who is trying to maintain a reputation, they are trying to build one!


Keep up the good work ford!!!

 

You have a point if no one buys then what reason does ford have to keep making engines in house?

 

manual trans?


could you imagine 50 years from now: some of them still complaining about not having a manual when the truck no longer uses gears in the transmission? maybe they could have a program you can install that would simulate shifting for the old timers. It would make them ''feel good''

HA!!!

kinda like saying you wish they still had manual windshield wipers, HISTORY.

 

There is another article this morning at pickuptrucks.com
400 hp and 725 TQ. Should be a towing monster.

 

Not everyone...

Navistar's EPA-2010 compliant engines do NOT rely on exhaust aftertreatment to meet the emissions standards. They use what they call "enhanced EGR", and as far as I know they're the only ones to use this method. Less complex systems, less things to worry about, and no having to buy exhaust fluid!

www.maxxforce.com/2010

This is part of the reason I wish they didn't change engine so soon...

 

Likewise with Cummins engines in Dodge Ram's, no Urea, they've been 2010 compliant since 2007, and dont suffer near the mileage penalties of the 6.4 with their DPF's...

This motor looks cool and all, but c'mon Ford! Urea? Really? We've had years to figure this out, and an all new engine which could have incorporated technologies such as the cummins and internations engines, but nooooo...

No mention of the death of the V10, Ford's only real realiable and capable engine, pouring salt in the wounds...

 

Interesting. On Cummins' website they mention that the EPA-2010 ISB engine uses their exhaust aftertreatment system...

http://www.everytime.cummins.com/eve...10_ISB67.page?

Are the Ram pickups using a different emissions setup?

 

Unless something changed... They were advertising when they came out with the 6.7 in 2007 that they were 2010 compliant with the DPF...

 

All this stuff is for a short time. These other engines are compliant for how long? will ford be outdated very soon and be forced to change? or cummins and the maxxforce engines be going to urea sometime? Remember the days when the muscle car died and emissions were gettin bad, then they started coming out with fuel injection systems in the 80's for all engines??? no one gets it perfect on the first try! give all the engine builders time. I feel that emission regulations will become so strict and forever changing that no one will ever perfect a clean engine before they demand cleaner.

Simply put, you like fords? Buy n drive em!!!

 

Does anyone know if the cab and doors will be the same?