351w upgrades questions
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351w upgrades questions
I've got a '83 F150 extended cab with a stock 351w, C-6 trans, and 3.55 gears. The only upgrades over stock are the performer intake/600 vac sec holley and Mallory HEI distributor. It still has the iron manifolds and single (non cat) 2 1/2" exhaust with a giant truck muffler, the "awesome" D9 heads :roll: and a factory rated 8.3-1 compression. This truck was factory rated at a whopping 139hp with the stock 2bbl...I'm guessing I am up to about 141 hp now :roll:
Money is very tight right now, but I need to make some performance upgrades as this thing is just horribly underpowered (truck weighs 5100 pounds). I found a very good deal on a pair of E7TE heads and a stock 5.0 HO roller cam. I am a long time Chevy guy, so a lot of Ford stuff is new to me. Here are my questions...
1) From what I found the E7TE heads have a roughly 62cc chamber versus the 69cc chambers on my D9 heads (this is a good thing). Does this sound right? What size do I need to drill out the head bolt holes to so I can bolt them on the 351w? I will be porting the heads, but retaining the stock valve size.
2) Of the top of my head, the specs on the stock 5.0 HO roller cam are something like 210/210@.050, .445/.445 lift, with something like a 114.5* lsa and no advance ground in. Does that sound right? Should I install it 4* advanced? Will the '83 mechanical fuel pump eccentric bolt up to the front of the cam? Will the stock 351w cam retainer work with the HO roller cam? Do I need a different timing chain set for the roller?
3) I have no intentions of tearing down the shortblock at this time. My understanding is that to run a non reduced base circle (retrofit style) cam, I will have to use a set of retrofit type tie bar linked roller lifters, instead of being able to use the factory rollers. Is this correct?
4) Will I need to change the distributor gear to work with the roller cam?
5) I do plan on upgrading the exhaust. Will the factory '87 stainless steel mustang headers fit a truck? I know they aren't perfect, but they have to be way better than the iron manifolds that are on it now.
If there is anything I am missing please let me know. Thanks!
Money is very tight right now, but I need to make some performance upgrades as this thing is just horribly underpowered (truck weighs 5100 pounds). I found a very good deal on a pair of E7TE heads and a stock 5.0 HO roller cam. I am a long time Chevy guy, so a lot of Ford stuff is new to me. Here are my questions...
1) From what I found the E7TE heads have a roughly 62cc chamber versus the 69cc chambers on my D9 heads (this is a good thing). Does this sound right? What size do I need to drill out the head bolt holes to so I can bolt them on the 351w? I will be porting the heads, but retaining the stock valve size.
2) Of the top of my head, the specs on the stock 5.0 HO roller cam are something like 210/210@.050, .445/.445 lift, with something like a 114.5* lsa and no advance ground in. Does that sound right? Should I install it 4* advanced? Will the '83 mechanical fuel pump eccentric bolt up to the front of the cam? Will the stock 351w cam retainer work with the HO roller cam? Do I need a different timing chain set for the roller?
3) I have no intentions of tearing down the shortblock at this time. My understanding is that to run a non reduced base circle (retrofit style) cam, I will have to use a set of retrofit type tie bar linked roller lifters, instead of being able to use the factory rollers. Is this correct?
4) Will I need to change the distributor gear to work with the roller cam?
5) I do plan on upgrading the exhaust. Will the factory '87 stainless steel mustang headers fit a truck? I know they aren't perfect, but they have to be way better than the iron manifolds that are on it now.
If there is anything I am missing please let me know. Thanks!
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1) From what I found the E7TE heads have a roughly 62cc chamber versus the 69cc chambers on my D9 heads (this is a good thing). Does this sound right? What size do I need to drill out the head bolt holes to so I can bolt them on the 351w? I will be porting the heads, but retaining the stock valve size.
2) Of the top of my head, the specs on the stock 5.0 HO roller cam are something like 210/210@.050, .445/.445 lift, with something like a 114.5* lsa and no advance ground in. Does that sound right? Should I install it 4* advanced? Will the '83 mechanical fuel pump eccentric bolt up to the front of the cam? Will the stock 351w cam retainer work with the HO roller cam? Do I need a different timing chain set for the roller?
They will fit the block but the exhaust will have to be custom since the exits are in different places. They may also present interference problems with the firewall, frame, or driveshaft. Truck specific headers are less problem and longtubes provide more gains than shorties, so why not if you're doing custom exhaust anyway.
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[quote=compman;7324100]I've got a '83 F150 extended cab with a stock 351w, C-6 trans, and 3.55 gears. The only upgrades over stock are the performer intake/600 vac sec holley and Mallory HEI distributor. It still has the iron manifolds and single (non cat) 2 1/2" exhaust with a giant truck muffler, the "awesome" D9 heads :roll: and a factory rated 8.3-1 compression. This truck was factory rated at a whopping 139hp with the stock 2bbl...I'm guessing I am up to about 141 hp now :roll:
Money is very tight right now, but I need to make some performance upgrades as this thing is just horribly underpowered (truck weighs 5100 pounds). I found a very good deal on a pair of E7TE heads and a stock 5.0 HO roller cam. I am a long time Chevy guy, so a lot of Ford stuff is new to me. Here are my questions...
4) Will I need to change the distributor gear to work with the roller cam?
You WILL need a compatible steel gear to be compatible with your factory roller camshaft. And, your advance curve should be set up to work with your new engine combination.
If you decide to get a new distributor, consider our custom curved Duraspark Distributor built with our new Full Length Oil Impregnated Bronze Bushing. The full length bushing improves timing stability and spark scatter. If stock appearance is not an issue, take a look at our one piece D.U.I. Distributor. Whether you choose the Duraspark or the D.U.I., we curve each on a distributor machine based on your engine combination. Please see them at:
http://performancedistributors.com/forddistributors.htm
Also, there is now an excellent installation article on the D.U.I. Distributor on the Ford-Trucks.com site at:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/article/idx/0/358/article/DUI_Ignition_Installation_In_A_Ford_351W_V8.html
Money is very tight right now, but I need to make some performance upgrades as this thing is just horribly underpowered (truck weighs 5100 pounds). I found a very good deal on a pair of E7TE heads and a stock 5.0 HO roller cam. I am a long time Chevy guy, so a lot of Ford stuff is new to me. Here are my questions...
4) Will I need to change the distributor gear to work with the roller cam?
You WILL need a compatible steel gear to be compatible with your factory roller camshaft. And, your advance curve should be set up to work with your new engine combination.
If you decide to get a new distributor, consider our custom curved Duraspark Distributor built with our new Full Length Oil Impregnated Bronze Bushing. The full length bushing improves timing stability and spark scatter. If stock appearance is not an issue, take a look at our one piece D.U.I. Distributor. Whether you choose the Duraspark or the D.U.I., we curve each on a distributor machine based on your engine combination. Please see them at:
http://performancedistributors.com/forddistributors.htm
Also, there is now an excellent installation article on the D.U.I. Distributor on the Ford-Trucks.com site at:
https://www.ford-trucks.com/article/idx/0/358/article/DUI_Ignition_Installation_In_A_Ford_351W_V8.html
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