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Old 10-04-2008, 03:24 PM
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Why a 4.4 and not the VT275?

Navistar already has the whole VT line of V6 engines at the ready, why not adapt them to a light pickup? I have a few trucks running these at work and they are great motors. with an 18 foot body and a GVW of 18500 loaded down to 20k it has NO problem pulling hills, very little turbo lag with the twin turbos, and right around 11mpg pushing that barn door of a truck down the highway.
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Although the VT275 adapted to the torqshift is a great motor/tranny combination, Ford doesn't seem to want to have anything to do with International. Thats all i can think of... plus, they have the Dagenham diesel operations in EU. Staying 'in house' is cheaper...
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Early in this decade the VT 275 was developed by International for Ford light duty vehicle use. Story was Ford declined to use it because it wasn't as smooth running or quiet as they felt it needed to be. Ford and International had a go around at that time as International had spent a lot of money on its development. Recouping some of those costs may be why we got the 6.0 when we did.
At any rate the VT275 aka 4.5 Powerstroke aka MaxxForce 5 will be history when the 2010 emission standards go into effect as International is discontinuing its production.
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The problem is that International couldn't get the VT275 to meet the light truck (under 8500 pound GVWR) emissions standards and still drive well. How would you like 25 seconds 0-60 times? That's where they were when the program was cancelled.
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The problem is that International couldn't get the VT275 to meet the light truck (under 8500 pound GVWR) emissions standards and still drive well. How would you like 25 seconds 0-60 times? That's where they were when the program was cancelled.
Oh well. It pushes my beer trucks down the road just fine.
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It runs fine on the more relaxed over 10k emissions levels. It can't meet the lower limits and drive well.
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At any rate the VT275 aka 4.5 Powerstroke aka MaxxForce 5 will be history when the 2010 emission standards go into effect as International is discontinuing its production.
Where did you get this info? I work for a Navistar dealership and have not heard anything to this effect, As a matter of fact, I have gone to school for the whole maxxforce line from the 5 all the way to the 13. 2010 emission standards have already been met.
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Where did you get this info? I work for a Navistar dealership and have not heard anything to this effect, As a matter of fact, I have gone to school for the whole maxxforce line from the 5 all the way to the 13. 2010 emission standards have already been met.
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I heard it from an International training instructor. Of course he could have been mistaken or the MaxxForce 5, like the VT365 could just soldier on in military trucks or markets other than North American on highway.
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I heard it from an International training instructor. Of course he could have been mistaken or the MaxxForce 5, like the VT365 could just soldier on in military trucks or markets other than North American on highway.
Yes i have also heard that international claims they meet 10' standards and in fine print " With different tuning etc" so a tuned down version. thats rumor thou from what i have been reading.
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