i thought fords posted losses were sad, but check out GM's posted losses...

GM posts $15.5 billion loss as sales sputter - Yahoo! Canada News

 

These are not great times for the original three North American auto manufacturers. I just hope fuel prices come down real soon.
This is way too much of a change for my liking but I suppose that`s progress................
Make one wonder what cars shows will be like in the future. Will it be only neon coloured ricers with big wings, dual fart cans and strobe lights, some kid asking resto questions on a 2201 XYZ car from China bought thru Wallyworld?

 

yeah, huh-huh, like man, like dude...like i got the 36 volt HO version man, like its awesome dude... huh-huh...

i can hear it now...

 

That what I`m thinking too but no problem since I won`t be around to worry about that!

 

I hope things can turn around fast for the big three! This guy in no way wants to drive a ricer!

 

i'm with ya on that one marlon. i'll be keeping this '08 for quite a while if thats the case, but i suspect that with dropping fuel prices, things will level off to a happy medium. they'll just have to be extra careful to only put out the best of quality because any warranty boo-boo's could mean curtains!!

 

I hear you Marlon and Sherm, I`d rather push a Ford if I had to then drive something less.......
I`m well stocked with a yard full of Fords.........

 

Same here no Rice for me

 

I read an artical in the Detroit news that according to a recent survey, Ford is at the top of the quality list. Ford is tied for second with Toyata and Nissan. Honda was in first.

 

Speaking of driving hybrids, did you guys see that peterbilt now offers a hybrid truck?


Hows that for a unique ricer lol.

 

doesn't suprise me, and if they bought more advertising from the media they'd probably be the best there ever was... i could care less what the rest of the world thinks of them as long as they keep putting out a great product that suits the needs of ME not suprising that chebby nor dodge made top honors, those guy have been slipping for a while now.

 

Seems to me like dodge has never (in MY days) been at or even near of the top of the quality charts. Ever since I have gotten my licence, I can think of alot worse dodge vehicles then fords.

 

A friend is looking at a new 4x4 half ton - he doesnt have brand preferences. He told me last night that the Transport Canada fuel ratings were 3 or 4 mpg higher for the 5.3 Chevy vs Ford 5.4, Dodge hemi, Toyota, and Nissan. I think they are buying in the states - a $10000 saving is too big to ignore!

 

Do you know what they base that on? I beleive its from the owner satisfaction crap that they drill you on while the vehicle still smells new - if you want to put any merit into it go ahead but I feel it would mean more if they would ask you those questions about three years into the ownership experience. I am not singling out any brand. I have bought as many new vehicles in the last 20 years as anyone and the surveys are the same for all brands! They all mysteriously quit sending that stuff once the vehicles get some miles on them!
We are all looking for some good news re-enforcement. Its like when we read sled reviews. If the magazine cuts down what you are riding it has no credibility (until next time your brand is on top)! We are all too predictable!

 

lol...here we go again... i'll tell you right now, even money, the chevy 5.3 doesn't get any better mileage than anything else. i've spoken to guys who have each...more guys with chevy's and they're barely breaking 20-22mpg on the highway. one fella claims 26mpg in a dodge with the hemi... i wouldn't believe it, but he drives very conservatively and hasn't been a BS spreader about anything else...