Originally Posted by EPDP99

there are projector and reflection HID lights. its all what its set up for. Its actually illegal to put HID's on anything that didnt come from the factory no matter if you do a real HID replacement of hid reflector or projection headlight. im not talking about the hid light that plugs into the factory halogen reflector which are also illegal and are not good because they produce "hot spots" and glare. HID's have a very distinct cutoff line in a backwards z pattern so the light is lower on drivers side as to no blind oncoming traffic...

Originally Posted by R-WEST

After climbing out of the vehicle a few times at night to be sure the headlights WERE actually on, I gave up and got some Silverstar H13 ST2's from Advance Auto ($38.00/pr). WOW!! What a difference. Next I'll install some 9145 Silvers in the fog lights and I'll be set.

My '03 had SS's in both high and low beams, and, after driving my '07 at night I couldn't believe the difference.

I've heard that the SS's have a reputation for needing replacement every year or so (the last ones I had didn't, maybe the guys who mentioned that drive only at night, or, drive with their lights on all the time), but, even if that's true, who cares? Being able to see is rather more important, I'd say.

BTW - Put some H13's in the wife's Freestyle too. She's most impressed.

I can't understand why Ford doesn't do a better job with the lighting. I mean, even the "lower end" Expy's cost nearly $40G - you'd think we'd get some decent lights, y'know?

Originally Posted by poppie

just another unnessary "TOY",when someone is comming at you with silver star's it's like someone is WELDING right in front of you and then I can't see

Originally Posted by CarbonClear

Your complaining about silver stars? What about all the after market HID kits that are applied to cars and truck alike? Silver stars are not that brite in comparison to hids....maybe you need to take off your sunglass's instead

Originally Posted by R-WEST

Properly adjusted, as any headlight should be, I cannot imagine how the DOT legal SS's brightness can be an issue. Perhaps the guys you've seen "welding" don't have theirs adjusted correctly? Are you sure they're SS's?
A lot of add-on HID's are horrible in that respect, especially when incorrectly installed, as mentioned in other posts in this thread. Those WILL blind you, especially if there's water on the road. Maybe those are the 'welders' you're seeing?

I guess I could just stay home at night.

Obviously your 61 year old eyes work better than my 53's. Now I'm even more depressed about my paunchy, balding, sore back, nothing left to aspire to, really, life. I guess all I have to look forward to is E.D. now. At least there's viagra and cialis and stuff.

Originally Posted by poppie

I have no way of knowing if they were silver star's,they were not factory and way to bright for oncomming traffic,sorry i lumped them all together in one group as being overly bright ,on the ED thing we are screwed, dateline the other nite had a show about "FAKE" viagra,cialis,cancer drug's ect comming in from where else(CHINA),why have not shut china junk off,the fake cancer drug's caused a woman's DEATH!!!

Originally Posted by CarbonClear

Thats a big problem,

We couldn't stop China if we really wanted to. Since the USA has out sourced most or if not all of it's manufacturing to them, we as a nation are in their debt.
It's kind of sad when you sit back and think about we were once a nation of strong manufacturing...and now what do we get to show for it?

Originally Posted by poppie

what do we have to show for it,fake pill's from an enemy(china)made out of drywall,concret and road paint ,per the dateline report,the same china that we fought in vetnam and the korean war,don't forget we have a lot of people who were not even born when my generation fought in vetnam (early 70's) and the guy's who fought in the korean war are now pushing 80,it would be one thing if the drug's were quality,but there JUNK made out of JUNK and it has killed people,better start a thread about this before we get yelled at for hijacking this one.

Originally Posted by CarbonClear

lol ok, I see your point, but I guess you missed my point. What I meant to say earlier was the Chinese are sending these inferior products only because we allow them too. Have you been to your local Home Depot or Lowes and looked to see where the manufacturing is done the products we buy? I would think about 90 percent of it coming from China.

As for medicines coming out of China that a serious threat. I'm wondering how can companies here in the USA sell these products and then ignore if as if they didn't know anything about it. Some one within the corporate ladder is making a ton of money.

Poppie unfortunately I hope they do something about these fake pills and bear justice against these crooks who bring them out into the market. But in case you need some Viagra I can send ya some