What the year is the last OBD-I aero?
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MAF's are very reliable Pablo,
many Aero's here with 200k miles on original MAF with just ocassional maintenance cleaning
Ford had to go to MAF system to obtain lower emission in later Aeros due to gov. regs, allows for more accurate dynamic air/fuel mix measurement
MAP works well on diesel since there is no need to maintain perfect low emission air/fuel mix...in fact a rich mix in a diesel is better for more HP, lower combustion chamber and exhaust temps and longer cyl. & piston life
we used to button up the injector pumps in 600 HP CATS to 1000 HP in logging trucks, black smoke would bellow out the exhaust stacks on a hard long hill pull....just put the throttle thru the pump and let her roar...3 gallons per mile
many Aero's here with 200k miles on original MAF with just ocassional maintenance cleaning
Ford had to go to MAF system to obtain lower emission in later Aeros due to gov. regs, allows for more accurate dynamic air/fuel mix measurement
MAP works well on diesel since there is no need to maintain perfect low emission air/fuel mix...in fact a rich mix in a diesel is better for more HP, lower combustion chamber and exhaust temps and longer cyl. & piston life
we used to button up the injector pumps in 600 HP CATS to 1000 HP in logging trucks, black smoke would bellow out the exhaust stacks on a hard long hill pull....just put the throttle thru the pump and let her roar...3 gallons per mile
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As another reference, my 1990 model uses MAF.
I always thought that diesel engines smoke when they don't get enough air? Quite often you see them smoking a lot from take off because the turbocharger can't spool up fast enough, and thus can not provide enough air during the transition.
Do these MAP controlled diesel engines use the sensor to regulate the amount of fuel being injected? So they can supply the exact amount of fuel needed based on the available air, like gasoline engines?
I always thought that diesel engines smoke when they don't get enough air? Quite often you see them smoking a lot from take off because the turbocharger can't spool up fast enough, and thus can not provide enough air during the transition.
Do these MAP controlled diesel engines use the sensor to regulate the amount of fuel being injected? So they can supply the exact amount of fuel needed based on the available air, like gasoline engines?
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Khanty! Here drivers use to disconnect pipe, leading from PCV and put gases from the crankcase to the atmosphere.... Yes. It saves MAF....
Abaut injector pumps in 600 HP CATS, Volvos and Cuminis diesels.... It is difficult to replace them and repare, becouse I need to take apart cyl. head. Electronically controlled pump units of Mercedes and Freightliner and electronically controlled Fuel Pumps of DAF (Kenworth) are easier to repare and serv.
For example, to remove injector of V8 MB diesel I need ro unscrew 2 bolts to remove cover of one head (8 heads, 8 covers), unscrew retainer (1 bolt), unscrew pipe nut and pull out injector. 15 minutes job, but to remove Volvo injector morer then 2 hours are needed, so I ask mechanics to do it.
Abaut injector pumps in 600 HP CATS, Volvos and Cuminis diesels.... It is difficult to replace them and repare, becouse I need to take apart cyl. head. Electronically controlled pump units of Mercedes and Freightliner and electronically controlled Fuel Pumps of DAF (Kenworth) are easier to repare and serv.
For example, to remove injector of V8 MB diesel I need ro unscrew 2 bolts to remove cover of one head (8 heads, 8 covers), unscrew retainer (1 bolt), unscrew pipe nut and pull out injector. 15 minutes job, but to remove Volvo injector morer then 2 hours are needed, so I ask mechanics to do it.
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Do these MAP controlled diesel engines use the sensor to regulate the amount of fuel being injected? So they can supply the exact amount of fuel needed based on the available air, like gasoline engines?
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Yes, they did it, this function is called "smoke limit". If there is not enought air (turbine is in the beggining of lug, old air filter, air leak from intercooler, altitude), MR (engine control unit) decrease fuel injection, but old fuel injectors may cause smoke too, and we have periodically check them and replace nossels and springs.
New diesel engines have smoke sensors, that work like 02 sensors, if there is a lot of smoke, MR decreases fuel/air ratio, even if the torque is lower and air pressure is enought.
To calculate air consumption of diesel 4 sensors are used - MAP (Boost Pressure sensor), Atmospheric pressure sensor, IAT (boost temperature sensor, installed in manyfold, after intercooler) and outdoors temperature sensor.
These sensors let to see not only how much air use engine, but the effectivity of intercooler, turbine and air leaks from boost line.
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Yes, they did it, this function is called "smoke limit". If there is not enought air (turbine is in the beggining of lug, old air filter, air leak from intercooler, altitude), MR (engine control unit) decrease fuel injection, but old fuel injectors may cause smoke too, and we have periodically check them and replace nossels and springs.
New diesel engines have smoke sensors, that work like 02 sensors, if there is a lot of smoke, MR decreases fuel/air ratio, even if the torque is lower and air pressure is enought.
To calculate air consumption of diesel 4 sensors are used - MAP (Boost Pressure sensor), Atmospheric pressure sensor, IAT (boost temperature sensor, installed in manyfold, after intercooler) and outdoors temperature sensor.
These sensors let to see not only how much air use engine, but the effectivity of intercooler, turbine and air leaks from boost line.
Last edited by Pablo-UA; 02-08-2007 at 12:59 AM.
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Originally Posted by Pablo-UA
Hello!
I'm looking for a newer aero, but I want to purchaise OBD-I aero without MAF, becouse parts for OBD-I aero are cheapper here..... So when the last OBD-I aero 3.0 with ignition distributore was made?
Thanks!
I'm looking for a newer aero, but I want to purchaise OBD-I aero without MAF, becouse parts for OBD-I aero are cheapper here..... So when the last OBD-I aero 3.0 with ignition distributore was made?
Thanks!
Aeroman59.
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