[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 25-Feb-01 AT 10:03 PM (EST)[/font][p]I have 4 questions and one request. Anyone who can help would be sincerely appreciated.

This question is because I messed up.

Does it matter which way the front axle goes in, i.e., front/back? I forgot to mark it when I disassembled it. I can't find any markings that indicate which is which.

Second question: Has anyone converted to self adjusting brakes on the rear of their 60 using backing plates from a later model ford? Please advise which will work with no problem.

Third Question: Has anyone done a gas tank conversion to frame mount other than the Isuzu Trooper?

Fourth Question: On the front spindles, I found that it doesnt show any shims when replacing the king pins on light duty trucks. They are shown in the service manual for medium duty. If they are required and/or recommended, could someone give me the installation instructions. I have the 60 shop manual but it really doesnt cover anything.

Request: Can someone please give me address/phone number/e-mail address for bobs f-100's. I need to get the pitman arm for the toyota steering box conversion.

 

The tapered pin which locks your king pin in should install from the front. Also your wheel "stop" should be behind the front axle. You are correct on the shims. Napa has a good easy to install kit, it comes with everything you need. As far as the brakes are concerned I would think that as long as the "backing plate" is the same bolt pattern on your axle( 4 bolt pattern) it should fit. You would have to use the entire brake system including the shoes and drum. Check to make sure the drum will fit inside your wheel if you are using a stock wheel. The only problem I can think of would be your axle bearing size. You might have to take a die grinder and ream it out a little. As far as the galvanized bamboo crap is, I don't fool with nothing but FORD products. Hope this helps!

P.S. I have'nt heard of a Bob's f-100's
What about John's F-Fun Hundred's
1575 W. Broadway Anaheim, Ca,92802
www.F100.Com 1-800-563-3151 1-714-563-F100 Fax 1-714-563-1592

 

[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON 27-Feb-01 AT 02:37 PM (EST)[/font][p]Thanks for the feedback. Your response however, raises a couple more questions.

Regarding the tapered pin. Does it really make a difference? I am doing the disk brake conversion and one of the instructions given by Engineered Components is to install the pin from the rear. I know that the pin will only go in one way but the 1960 shop manual is not specific on front to rear or vice-versa. Since the axle is identical front and rear as far as I can tell, and the axle is bare at this time, is there any problem with just reversing axle if required.

Second, you mention that Napa has a install kit. Is this kit something different than the original King Pin Set? I already have the kit which was acquired from Vintage Ford here in Sacramento. You said that I was correct on the shims so does the Napa kit require the shims or do I just forget the shims altogether.

 

You better put the axle in like it's supposed to go. There should be an inclination of the kingpin (caster) that would be
thrown off if you put the axle in backwards.

 

Thanks, you are more than likely correct on the caster alignment. I'm still not convinced which direction the pin goes however. Front to rear or vice-versa. So far I have concluded that it goes front to rear.

 

I used the napa kit because my dad owned his own store in Chico. But no there are no shims in the kit. If you are not sure which way the axle goes look to see which way the "road grime" is on the axle. Most will stick to the back of the axle, but also the front should be cleaner. Is there an axle stop on your axle. This would look like a bolt with a nut on it. It goes to the rear. Like you said the pin only goes one way therefore the tapered hole would be to the front. Would you send me that address for the disc brake conversion? Hope this helps.

Fordman

 

I got the kit through Engineered Components, Inc.

Tel: (860) 872-7046
Address: Engineered Components, Inc.
Hot Rod Brakes and Brackets
P.O. Box 841
Vernon, CT 06066

E-Mail Address: www.ecihotrodbrakes.com

You will not be able to contact them through E-Mail as I recall, however, they do have an on-line catalog.

 

By the way, there is no road grime. The axle is completely disassembled and clean enough to eat on. Thanks for your information. Im still not sure what to do about the ECI requirement.

 

The online address for Bob's is http://www.bobsf100.com/
Mike K

 

Put the tapered hole to the front. Then put the axle on some jack stands or something steady. Level the pads that your leafs sit on, then look at your king pins. Are they straight up and down or slanted? If they are straight up and down it should be alright to reverse it as long as the steering geometry is the same. Hope this helps.

Fordman

 

Thanks. I'll try that. I am also waiting a reply from ECI.

 

I want to thank everyone for their input on my questions. Everything was helpful. Here is what I have found out from a number of sources that will guide me.

The Axle front is on the side where the Tapered Pins go without restriction. My Pin holes are larger on the front than on the back.

With the ECI kit, the pins have to go from the rear because of the interference of the nut. Some of the holes already allow the pin to go forward without modification. In my case, I have to slightly enlarge the hole to allow for reverse installation.

Regarding the rear self adjusters. I took a set of adjuster, i.e cable, adjuster, lever, and cable loop off of a 75. I measured the shoes except for width and found that they will easily adapt to the existing shoes and backing plates. Cost me $1.14 as U-Pull-It.

As far as my rear end is concerned, I have an original ford Model 3300 which is a 9 inch. The cars of that era also had a 9 inch but the ends were 4 bolt. Later model trucks have the 4 bolt pattern. On this truck it is a 5 bolt. The easiest way to tell is by the bearing size. The trucks, in most cases had a big bearing while the cars had small bearings. The plate for the small bearing measures 3 5/16' x 2'. The plate for the big bearing measures 3 1/2 x 2 3/8. This is center of bolt hole to center of bolt hole.

The only problem I have right now is the fuel tank changeout. Skip4274 has volunteered to help me resolve this issue. I still need to get back with him.

I hope to have the vehicle back on wheels again in about 3 weeks. I doubt if it will be done for another 18 months however. I'm in california and sometimes the whether is unpredictable during this period. I hate the cold.

If I can help anyone, let me know. I live about 5 miles from Sacramento Vintage Ford and they have one hell of a store.