There have been rumors floating around Bozeman MT that Caterpillar and Ford have made a contract for 2007. I would love some facts on the subject. I am originally from well near peoria Il. So I know some people that work there. The only thing they said is they heard rumors in January of 05 that a contract was being made for a smaller pick up truck engine, ford was never mentioned. I also heard chevy was a possibility but find it hard to believe since chevy guroos seem to drool over their Izuzu's. Anywho just wonderin if anybody knows anthing thing. This is my first time and glad to be a part of all this. Thanks for your time and info.

 

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-Matt

 

One word- no. Ford's married to Navistar, Dodge to Cummins, and GM to Izuzu for the foreseeable future.

 

Ha GM is like a GI that goes to Korea for a year and comes back with a wife......

No offense, but it is kinda funny.

Nope Cat has no interest to produce a LD truck engine, they make their money from construction equiptment, and 10L plus truck engines

DT

 

cat will not do it they refuse to ruin their name with any scew ups.

 

True, but remember that the F750(#?) has been available with either a Cat or Cummins engine. (Hmmm...no Duraquax?) So it's kind of an "open" marriage...

At any rate, I doubt too that Ford would just dump Navistar after such a long and profitable relationship--they've done pretty well for themselves over the last 10-15 years, particularly with the debut of the Powerstroke.

Jason

 

who knows for sure but cat does make some small light weight 4 and 6 cyl. motors that would work for ford
http://ohe.cat.com/cda/layout?m=85540&x=7
http://www.cat.com/cda/layout?m=37557&x=7
cat has motors that start at 0.5 liters and 8.2 hp right on up to some very big monsters with 6598 hp for big marine aps. in fact they even have thier hands in lawn mowers now cat powered http://www.cat.com/cda/components/fu...6&languageId=7

 

Ford already uses the 7.2 in the F650, and 750.

 

yep and it's a great motor.imm it's better then a cumapart. it pushes a lot of rv's around.never mind how many boats.

 

"cat will not do it they refuse to ruin their name with any scew ups."

Funny you should mention that, Cat, or Craterpiller as I refer to them, has been having an awful tough time with cylinder sleeves and heads lately, not to mention them being several years late on meeting emissions standards. I could begin to tell you how sorry Cats controls systems are, but thats also a post reserved for another thread as well.

Ryan

 

i've been around cats since 1972 and have never had a problem with controls or motors. even in the boats i run.in fact most of the owners i know are pulling thier old dd 2 strokes and going cat because of reliablity.

 

Lean Burn 3600 series Nat Gas engine Cap. Their on their 4th revision now, and to date, I still don't think their schooled techs know any more about them than the operators and mechanics that run them. I will say that the Iron part of the engine is stellar. Nothing even near the reliability of the 379, 398, 399 Cat. as far as run time goes, they run and run and run some more. A good fog rolls through and the 3600 shuts down.

On the truck motor issue, A local company has 2 04' motors cratered in a shop and also an 05' less than 300,000 on all of them. They thought is was a lot of bad liners or heads, but when they started showing up on the 05's it is now an enigma, kinda like the 6.0. Many love em many hate em. OTR companies can barely afford fuel, let alone a downed truck, or 3.

Ryan

 

Did everyone forget the world of Ford LD trucks stops at a F450? Same with GM- once you hit 550 or higher, the powertrain options open up (ditto GM). Not sold at a regular Ford franchise though- need to be a medium-duty dealer.

 

Actually the 550 is a beefed up SD... It can be found mixed in with 1 tons on most lots. The 650 and 750 models are the medium duty trucks... Yes I know you're a salesman, I'm just relaying what I see around here.

 

Yep- I know. I just meant from a franchise standpoint, the Blue Oval and the Bowtie stops at the 450/4500 level.