I love these "mine's bigger than your's" threads!

Go V-10!

Edmo

 

My Fuente Opus XX tastes better than your Garciea Y Vega

 

I beg your pardon, you meant my montecristo whites and ttt Trinidads. LOL

 

Since on national average a one year old diesel powered truck is worth over $8,000 more than a comparible gasser and after three years the diesel truck is worth over $9,000 more than the gasser the choice for me is simple.

I drive a ton of miles every year and pull up to 20,000 lbs with my 99 SD so a gasser is out of the question for. My wifes 95 Bronco 5.8 gets around 10 mpg, I wanted her to drive something with two air bags and something that was safer and got better mpg so I looked towards an Excrusion. A V10 Excursion only gets around 12-14 mpg on the highway a PSD can get 17-20, the choice was clear. We found a 2000 V10 X with 126K miles Limited 4x4 for $13,000 (cheapest around) and a 2000 V8 PSD X with 104K miles Limited 4x4 for $19,000 (cheapest around), again the choice for the better truck was made and the PSD was bought.

I've seen and heard of 7.3's running up to 500K, 600K, and 700K miles without taking out the motor.

Why do all the semis run diesel motors if gassers are just as good!!! Just think of a gasser in a semi once pulling 80,000 lbs, could it get even 1 mpg?

I owned a 99 F150 V8 4.6 and it's the last gasser I'll ever buy.

 

BTW, I use both my PSD powered vehicles in my roofing business, great write offs!

I know of one guy who's a general contractor who runs with a V10, I know 10 on the top of my head running diesels.

The 99 has 176K miles on it, bought with 40K and the 00 X has 128K miles on it bought with 104K, I do all the work on them in my garage.

The F250 gets it's oil changed every 8K miles and the X at 5K miles. The oil filters cost me $2.99 each at Sears, Purolator (bought 1.5 cases before the price jumped to $12.99). The oil is bought at Wally World for $6.50 a gallon at four gallons that's about $25 for the oil and $3 for the filter every 8K miles, you would have to chance oil almost three times in the V10 and it will cost more than $28!!!

Fuel filters cost about $10-15 each on Ebay, two have been put in the truck and one in the suv. Air filters are about the same for gassers and diesels so there's not much difference on maintenance there.

During 3 winters my truck has failed to start for me unplugged twice, once on a lake ice fishing in Northern MN, the windchill was -50 and the actual temp was -35. The other time was at my father in laws lake home in northern MN when the temp dipped down to -25 overnight. Keep in mind my batteries are orginal from 6-99 which is one reason why I didn't start.

Mr. Carroll Shelby said it best, "Horsepower sells cars torque wins races"

 

I don't ever have a problem with people relating their personal experiences and voicing their opinions, that's what this forum is for - what I do have a problem with is when people just make up numbers to support their claims and attempt to pass them off as fact.

Do you have any evidence at all to back up this claim?

Waxy

 

My father in-law just bought a 2001 PSD and what he found was that the diesel version of the F-250 was selling for about twice the price of the gasser.

By the way, he was upgrading from a late 90's 460. He can't believe the difference in the how much better the new truck runs. And after his first tankfull he was very happy about the better fuel mileage.

 

> Why do all the semis run diesel motors if gassers are just as good!!!

The diesels use much less fuel while idling, on the highway there is probably only about a 1 or 2 mpg difference, if you can find a gas motor. But, after 100k (min. for most trucks) to 300k it really adds up to a fuel savings.

The only tractors with gas motors I can remember where in the Whites and a few of the older Fords.

 

4.30, standard for a V-10 Dually. New PSD, 4.10 which is also standard for a PSD Dually.

 

Put a turbo or supercharger on a gas engine and you get the same effect. Diesels today are turbocharged to burn fuel more efficiently. They need large quantities of air to run efficiently, and natural aspiration is not enough.


As a pilot familiar with aircraft engines and the effect of altitude on engine performance I would like to know if anyone has answers to the following. There are two ways to turbocharge the engine. You can turbonormalize, which means that the turbo will always make the engine see sea level conditions, up to its critical altitude, the altitude at which the waste gate is fully closed. The other option is to force more than sea level air into the engine, thus making the engine work very hard. Does anyone know how the Powerstroke works in this regard?

 

The gas and the diesel engines operate under two different principals.
Gas engines need to operate at or near the Stoichiometric ideal.

From http://homepage.mac.com/dgiessel/engine/basics.html "Ideally an engine takes in Air (Oxygen and Nitrogen) and fuel (hydrocarbons) and produecs CO2, H2O, and the N2 just passes straight through. The chemical equation is as follows.

2 C8H18 (gas) + 25 O2 = 16 CO2 + 18H2O

This equation is representative of a stoichiometric air fuel ratio (14.7:1)."

So if you pump more air into the gas engine, you need to pump more fuel to keep the mixture within the operating range. You get more power but burn more fuel.

The diesel on the other hand can operate with huge air to fuel ratios. In fact, the speed of operation is limited by the amount of fuel you introduce into the motor rather than a butterfly that controls the amout of fuel/air mixture like the gas engine.

With an externally driven compressor like a supercharger, you could run the boost up to 20 lb at idle and inject a few drops of fuel and the engine will happily clank away. Add more fuel and the engine will speed up. Of course the mechanical losse from driving a supercharger like that is less efficient than recovering energy from the exhaust to power a turbocharger so we live with less boost at idle.

As a result the combustion can be more complete because there is more air in there. In fact the 6.0 L PSD is a low emissions vehicle.

Another reason why the diesel can do more work with the same amount of fuel is that diesel fuel has energy content than gasoline.

So in general, modern diesels are around 30% more efficient than their gasoline counterparts.

 

BudKole you got me beat brother! I actually like the Montiechristo White better than the Fuente Opus XX, but hell what do I know, a rum soaked crook is my favorite on the golf course or in the boat. The deer seem partial to banana flavored cheroots when the dog an I are out scouting. Of course the quiet V10 lets me sneek up on them the next day so there is another reason

 

Hey Fred, out of all the cigars ive smoked, I have never smokes an opux x. You gotta point, there nothing like being able to sneak that quiet v10 back home from the strip club without waking of the wife and getting busted.

 

Talking about "de-railing"?????

 

at full speed