6.0L Power Stroke Diesel 2003 - 2007 F250, F350 pickup and F350+ Cab Chassis, 2003 - 2005 Excursion and 2003 - 2009 van

Info on GVW and GCWR's for F250 and F350

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 09-29-2004, 09:34 PM
lacofdfireman's Avatar
lacofdfireman
lacofdfireman is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Info on GVW and GCWR's for F250 and F350

Could someone please tell me the difference between the GVW and GCWR's for F250 and F350 or where I could find some info on them. I have been searching but am not finding what I want. This would be for the 04 models. I have heard that the difference is only a few hundred pounds since the F350 weights more but would like a more concrete answer. Trying to find out if I am legal pulling my toyhauler. Thanks
 

Last edited by lacofdfireman; 09-29-2004 at 09:37 PM.
  #2  
Old 09-29-2004, 09:55 PM
Hayapower!'s Avatar
Hayapower!
Hayapower! is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: CA
Posts: 920
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
First, are looking for towing/weights on a 04 Dual Rear Wheel, Crew Cab, Super cab ect.. Long bed/Short bed?? If you can nail down a truck configuration, I have the info. right here.. And it would save some listing time.. You also can pick up a 04 truck brochure, (nice to just have handy) or even 05 to see the difference in the 'new' towing/hauling increased capacities.. Going by your signature vehicle, the max 'tag' weight is 12,500 limited through the hitch.. Fifth wheel towing 12,700.. (05 is much higher at 15,400/23,000 CGVWR but still a 12,500 tag/hitch weight restriction)..04 F350 has the same tag/fifth weights and combined CGVWR of 20,000 as the 250, but will take a payload increase of 'roughly' a 1000lbs but the numbers change some with camper/payload packages and of course short/long bed combo's..

What is the weight of your loaded trailer?
.....................HP...............
 

Last edited by Hayapower!; 09-29-2004 at 10:18 PM.
  #3  
Old 09-30-2004, 12:59 AM
lacofdfireman's Avatar
lacofdfireman
lacofdfireman is offline
Junior User
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 64
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Wanting to compare the 04 Crew Cab Single Rear wheel, 4x4 short bed 250 - 350's. Also with the 3.73 gears. Does that help. I will look for a brochure. I believe my trailer is 12000 max weight. I think I probably pull it at around 10k though. Not a ton of stuff in the back. I want to take it and have it weighed though. Anyone know the proper sequence to have it weighed so I can figure out the axle and tongue weights?
 
  #4  
Old 09-30-2004, 06:31 AM
IB Tim's Avatar
IB Tim
IB Tim is offline
Site Administrator
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: 3rd Rock
Posts: 161,998
Received 58 Likes on 30 Posts
The axles on trailer, then the tongue alone, I do the steering wheels separate, then the rear of the truck hooked up to the trailer, then the entire rig...
 
  #5  
Old 09-30-2004, 06:55 AM
PSDailydriver's Avatar
PSDailydriver
PSDailydriver is offline
Freshman User
Join Date: May 2003
Posts: 40
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
You could sit here and try to "figure" till the cows come home. What you need to do is load EVERYTHING you normally take (people, food, beer, tools, first aid kit, etc.) then drive straight to the filling station and top off all the tanks. From here go straight to the scales and without removeing anything get weights for the:
1) front truck axle only
2) both truck axles only
3)all axle truck and trailer
4) rear trailer axle only (assuming 2 axle trailer)

Now find your door sticker get GVWR (likely 8,800 or 8,600) and GCVWR (20,000).
Get axle ratings for front and rear axle.
Get ratings for trailer axles (you know max is 12,000)
First make sure #3 is less than GCVWR.
Next make sure #2 is less than GVWR.
Next make sure #4 is less than trailer axle rating.
Now the fun begins. Subtract #2 from #3 then subtract #4 (this is the front trailer axle weight) make sure it is below the trailer axle rating.
Next make sure #1 is less than the front truck axle rating.
Subtract #1 from #2 make sure it is less than the rear axle rating.

I am assuming that this is a tag along with a weight distributing hitch.
I did not calculate for trailer weight alone since it is not really going to limit you.

Now you know if you are legal and can "figure" from there.
 

Last edited by PSDailydriver; 09-30-2004 at 07:00 AM.
  #6  
Old 09-30-2004, 11:09 AM
Hayapower!'s Avatar
Hayapower!
Hayapower! is offline
Elder User
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: CA
Posts: 920
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Originally Posted by lacofdfireman
Wanting to compare the 04 Crew Cab Single Rear wheel, 4x4 short bed 250 - 350's. Also with the 3.73 gears. Does that help. I will look for a brochure. I believe my trailer is 12000 max weight. I think I probably pull it at around 10k though. Not a ton of stuff in the back. I want to take it and have it weighed though. Anyone know the proper sequence to have it weighed so I can figure out the axle and tongue weights?
10K shouldn't be a problem with your 250. Especially with a weight distributing hitch if you have one. With a 12K max trailer weight, sounds like your concern would be the tongue weight 'if' you collect items as I do along the way! I 'd do as the others suggested also, and load'r up and have a 'shot' at the scales.. Takes all the guess work out, and may give you the option of shifting load/s some, from the bed/truck/trailer to get a better balanced load..
..........................HP.................
 
  #7  
Old 09-30-2004, 08:33 PM
f250meangreen's Avatar
f250meangreen
f250meangreen is offline
Senior User
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 408
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Why is it my book says my 04 250 CC 4x4 can tow 12,500 but only fifth wheel 10,700?
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Wes(MI)
Large Truck
3
02-14-2015 02:19 AM
Y2KPSD
6.7L Power Stroke Diesel
2
12-19-2010 10:13 PM
lonewolf-one
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
1
08-02-2004 07:38 PM
StanleyZ
Other; Brakes, Electrical, Hitches, Weight Distribution & CDL Discussion
13
01-12-2003 07:56 PM
JoeV
1999 to 2016 Super Duty
1
08-15-2001 11:58 AM



Quick Reply: Info on GVW and GCWR's for F250 and F350



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:27 PM.