Y-block transmisions
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I believe that there are three, maybe four, bellhousings for the Y-block; two are standard transmission bells, and one is for the FordoMatic (FM). One of the standard transmission bells might fit up to a toploader or a T-10. Your transmission choices are T-85 and T-86 with and without overdrive, T-98 (granny low), and the FM. The FM can be adapted to the FMX and that's a pretty reasonable choice. That might be the most modern of transmissions.
Do a google search and you'll find articles about what it takes to adapt the FMX to the FM bellhousing.
Do a google search and you'll find articles about what it takes to adapt the FMX to the FM bellhousing.
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Ed, I think the bellhousing that fits to the T-18 will take either a toploader or a T-10. If it takes the toploader, then it will take the RUG version of the toploader; a four-speed overdrive transmission.
Hold on, I'll go look at some of my stuff to see what fits.
Ok, here's a news flash. My RUG case has a pair of bolt holes at all four corners. One set of holes lines up with the holes on a 3 speed bellhousing!!!! I'm shocked!
Just to be clear; it looks very much like you can use a 4 sp overdrive RUG toploader transmission as a replacement for the stock 3 speed. Pictures available upon request.
Tomorrow, I'll dig out a Chevy T-10 and see if it fits up to the T-18 bellhousing.
Hold on, I'll go look at some of my stuff to see what fits.
Ok, here's a news flash. My RUG case has a pair of bolt holes at all four corners. One set of holes lines up with the holes on a 3 speed bellhousing!!!! I'm shocked!
Just to be clear; it looks very much like you can use a 4 sp overdrive RUG toploader transmission as a replacement for the stock 3 speed. Pictures available upon request.
Tomorrow, I'll dig out a Chevy T-10 and see if it fits up to the T-18 bellhousing.
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Ed,
I don't remember what in particular the letters RUG stand for, but those letters are used to identify a version of the toploader transmission that is an overdrive trans; the high gear is overdriven. Third gear is the direct drive (1:1), and fourth is overdrive.
I have a NOS RUG case and it has two bolt patterns drilled, and one of the bolt patterns fits the T-85 3sp transmission bolt pattern perfectly. I can post pictures on my forum if that would clarify things.
Right now I wish I had a truck V8/3sp bellhousing. I've got three 4sp, one Fordo, and a FE/4sp truck bellhousings (plus the 223/3sp that's in the truck right now).
Edit; I forgot to describe the T-18; it's a 4sp with a granny (spur cut) first gear. Shifter on the top, a common option for light duty trucks.
I don't remember what in particular the letters RUG stand for, but those letters are used to identify a version of the toploader transmission that is an overdrive trans; the high gear is overdriven. Third gear is the direct drive (1:1), and fourth is overdrive.
I have a NOS RUG case and it has two bolt patterns drilled, and one of the bolt patterns fits the T-85 3sp transmission bolt pattern perfectly. I can post pictures on my forum if that would clarify things.
Right now I wish I had a truck V8/3sp bellhousing. I've got three 4sp, one Fordo, and a FE/4sp truck bellhousings (plus the 223/3sp that's in the truck right now).
Edit; I forgot to describe the T-18; it's a 4sp with a granny (spur cut) first gear. Shifter on the top, a common option for light duty trucks.
Last edited by pcmenten; 04-11-2004 at 10:09 PM.
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Ed.
Yes, the T-18 four speed is a factory original option on F-100, F-250, F-350 and standard equipment on F-500, F600, and F-700. Must be a strong bugger. I'll repeat myself so that we're clear, the T-18 has the spur-cut granny-low (6.40:1) first gear and a direct drive fourth gear. I've been offered T-18's for cheap but I already have one and I don't think I'll ever use it.
I do have the bellhousing(s) for it.
The usual T-5 is rated for 265lb/ft of torque. If driven hard, the stock 302HO will break it. There are versions capable of 300lb/ft; they have a different gear set in them.
-Paul
ps. I might have a line on an entire RUG 4sp.
Yes, the T-18 four speed is a factory original option on F-100, F-250, F-350 and standard equipment on F-500, F600, and F-700. Must be a strong bugger. I'll repeat myself so that we're clear, the T-18 has the spur-cut granny-low (6.40:1) first gear and a direct drive fourth gear. I've been offered T-18's for cheap but I already have one and I don't think I'll ever use it.
I do have the bellhousing(s) for it.
The usual T-5 is rated for 265lb/ft of torque. If driven hard, the stock 302HO will break it. There are versions capable of 300lb/ft; they have a different gear set in them.
-Paul
ps. I might have a line on an entire RUG 4sp.
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Yup, I've confused you. My apologies.
The T-18 is a factory original four speed. The RUG is not a T-18, it is a very different transmission from another era, the 80's.
The T-18 is a standard truck transmission. Strong as heck, spur cut first gear, syncro in 2nd through 4th gear. Fourth gear is direct drive; 1:1. Normally people start out in second gear unless they've got a load or they're pulling a trailer.
The RUG is not the same as a T-18. The RUG was installed in some Ford cars in the late 70's and early 80's. It is a four speed with fourth gear overdriven. Third gear is direct drive 1:1. It has a bolt pattern that will fit up to the bellhousing for the 3 speed manual transmission found in many 50's F-100s. The shifter is slightly back from where the T-18 shifter would be. A person would want a shift lever with an offset to help with seat clearance.
The T-18 is a factory original four speed. The RUG is not a T-18, it is a very different transmission from another era, the 80's.
The T-18 is a standard truck transmission. Strong as heck, spur cut first gear, syncro in 2nd through 4th gear. Fourth gear is direct drive; 1:1. Normally people start out in second gear unless they've got a load or they're pulling a trailer.
The RUG is not the same as a T-18. The RUG was installed in some Ford cars in the late 70's and early 80's. It is a four speed with fourth gear overdriven. Third gear is direct drive 1:1. It has a bolt pattern that will fit up to the bellhousing for the 3 speed manual transmission found in many 50's F-100s. The shifter is slightly back from where the T-18 shifter would be. A person would want a shift lever with an offset to help with seat clearance.
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5spd Y block
Fordifacation, how about a Clark 5spd ? There were 5spd Clarks offered in some of the bigger ford trucks. I believe they were the 260 series. They feature a low first gear, 6 1/2~7 to 1, and direct drive in 5th. 1st is made with straight cut gears, like alot of truck trannies. DF, @ his Dad's house