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Old 08-27-2016, 09:20 AM
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Front hub differances F100 F250

I have a set of warn front hubs that came off of my 65 F250. Would these bolt onto my 65 F100 front end? Both are closed knuckle D44 but I wonder if the F250 would have bigger shafts?


The 66 F250 is a 6800 GVW truck with a B5 axle code on the warranty plate.
The 65 F100 is a 5600 GVW truck with N 08 axle code.
 
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The axle codes on the warranty plate - in this case - don't call out what the front driving axle is. But, they might interchange if both D44 axles are the 3M axle. F100 and F250 with 3M axle both used the

C6TZ-1104-B - Warn Mfg. Company - M167, M198 - manual locking hubs

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It is just 6 allen screws and a snap ring to remove one - would be simple to remove one and try it on the other truck. I have a bunch of these warn hubs in their original Ford NOS boxes - Including the C6TZ-1104-F - Lock-o-matiic hubs. They are fairly rare.

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Thanks, I'm out of town or I'd go try to swap them. My F100 has an odd hub. it's a quarter turn and looks plastic. Unlike the hubs I've seen on other 1/2 ton fords from the era.
 
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Those *sound* like non-factory hubs there. Assuming 3M axle - the factory Ford brand Lockout Hub Actuating **** simple said

HUB
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LOK

on them. They would spin 360 degrees in either direction.

They were a part number

C4TZ-1A029-A

I also have these in NOS.

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Any idea if this is one of the OEM hubs on your list in 65?


 
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If they don't say

HUB
----
LOK


or

WARN

on them then they are likely not factory. Lots of companies made locking hubs back in the day - but if it is a plastic center then it can't be OEM.

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One other thing to note. - free running hubs did not come on every truck. These had to be ordered or it had to be built with them. Otherwise, you got the hubs that were locked in all the time. That, of course, puts a lot of wear on the front driving assemblies even when not utilizing them, so a lot of people in that boat either bought Ford/Warn parts over the counter or went to an aftermarket brand like Mile Marker, etc.

Reduces not just wear and tear but gas consumption, too.

Warn originally started out here in Seattle and were one of those local companies everyone was proud of.

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Here's a picture of the OEM Ford locking hubs with the

HUB
-----
LOK

like I mentioned. I know this truck came with them because it is on the original invoice.

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Originally Posted by 4x4Alaska
I have a set of warn front hubs that came off of my 65 F250. Would these bolt onto my 65 F100 front end? Both are closed knuckle D44 but I wonder if the F250 would have bigger shafts?

The 65 F100 is a 5600 GVW truck with N 08 axle code.
N is the TRANS code used in 1965 for the NP435 4 speed.

08 is the rear AXLE code for the 9" with 3.50-1 ratio.

The 3rd digit of the AXLE code (if present) refers to the front axle.
 
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