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Old 06-05-2016, 06:14 PM
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Controller for electric over hydraulic brakes

I am looking for another gooseneck trailer. I have only used trailers with electric brakes.
I want to open my options.
For electric over hydraulic brakes on a trailer, what controller must be installed into my truck?
Makes, models, prices ?

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Google Tekonsha...the Ultima I recall.
 
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Am running the Tekonisha P-2 (about 2 years old) in the SUV and electric over hydraulic in the RV (travel trailer with new system installed last year). Works Ok for the most part but tends to act like an air-brake system (comes in a bit soft but catches up quickly). I usually have to lead the brake pedal by coming in a bit firm at first and then backing off when the trailer catches up.

Overall I like the electric over hydraulic, but just cannot seem to get the truck and trailer 100% in synch.
 
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I have been reading,reading,reading...
It looks like Tekonsha P3 is in my future. Around $150.
It is advertised to work with electric or electric over hydraulic, dependent on how it is set.

Thanks for the input.
 
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Works Ok for the most part but tends to act like an air-brake system (comes in a bit soft but catches up quickly). . . .
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Overall I like the electric over hydraulic, but just cannot seem to get the truck and trailer 100% in synch.
Think I found the explanation for my experience.

Re-read the owner's manual and found that the P-2 had an Electric Over Hydraulic Mode which I had to manually engage. So for the past year it looks like *I* was the reason the truck and trailer were never 100% in synch . . .

Looks like I am going to have to create a cheat-sheet with the sequence to switch modes on the P-2 as I go back and forth with trailers that have electric and electric over hydraulic.

Presuming this cures the 'air-brake effect', (and after I confirm that it in fact does), will send a note to the RV's manufacturer (had them retrofit the electric over hydraulic from the original electric drums) whom did a checkout ride with me after the conversion and we never considered to verify the controller's mode. So will offer them a lessons learned of considering reading the brake controller owner's manual to assure it is in the correct mode as Step 1 during the checkout ride.



David, thank you for the inadvertent 'nudge' to go pull the owner's manual and re-read it
 
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Originally Posted by JayTheCPA
Think I found the explanation for my experience.

Re-read the owner's manual and found that the P-2 had an Electric Over Hydraulic Mode which I had to manually engage. So for the past year it looks like *I* was the reason the truck and trailer were never 100% in synch . . .

Looks like I am going to have to create a cheat-sheet with the sequence to switch modes on the P-2 as I go back and forth with trailers that have electric and electric over hydraulic.

Presuming this cures the 'air-brake effect', (and after I confirm that it in fact does), will send a note to the RV's manufacturer (had them retrofit the electric over hydraulic from the original electric drums) whom did a checkout ride with me after the conversion and we never considered to verify the controller's mode. So will offer them a lessons learned of considering reading the brake controller owner's manual to assure it is in the correct mode as Step 1 during the checkout ride.



David, thank you for the inadvertent 'nudge' to go pull the owner's manual and re-read it
Does the P3 have the slide in cradle? Maybe it would be easier to have dedicated controller for the elec/hyd trailer, and just swap back and forth?
 
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The P-3 does not look like it has a slide cradle like the P-2. Besides, the process to switch modes on the P-2 takes about 15 seconds and simply involves simultaneously pressing the brake pedal and 'boost' button on the controller; also, there is a visual clue to indicate which mode it is in.

Getting two controllers sounds like a neat idea, although with 2 tow vehicles that seems a bit expensive
 
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But you will only be using one unit at a time per vehicle, I would assume, you just need the plan to get the right trailer with the right vehicle at the right time?
 
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I prefer to leave installed items alone as over time porting it from one vehicle to another just introduces opportunity for breakage.


Actually, given what I now know, I'd pay the few extra $$ and get the P-3. In looking over the P-3's manual, it will store the settings / configuration of multiple trailers.

Also, it looks like the P-3 allows for adjustment of the display brightness and color which is another advantage over the current generation P-2. The current generation P-2 uses a blue LED that is distracting at night and truly needs a dimmer.
 
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Originally Posted by JayTheCPA
...David, thank you for the inadvertent 'nudge'...
You're welcome.

Originally Posted by JayTheCPA
...pay the few extra $$ and get the P-3. In looking over the P-3's manual, it will store the settings / configuration of multiple trailers...
I am seeing this as an upgrade to my current controller.
Thanks for sharing your experience
 
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