Stock Bullet Proof F250?? Does it exist?
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Stock Bullet Proof F250?? Does it exist?
I had 17,000 miles on my Chevy 2015 Diesel 2500HD. Found out the thing was a piece of junk. It started out giving me a message that it was going to cut me down to 65 mph, it did. Then to 55 mph, it did. I was out in the middle of the wilderness in Wyoming. Then it flashes me the message it was going to cut my a$$ down to 5 freakin' mph. So I beelined over to Jackson Hole to a dealership there.
After being stranded there for 2 days, they said "Well, you'll need a new exhaust injector and a couple of new sensors"
I said, "But it's only got 17,000 miles on it!"
They said, "Well, that's the way it is. The parts'll be in tomorrow."
Tomorrow comes. "Sorry, the parts'll be in tomorrow at noon and you can be on your way."
Tomorrow noon comes. "Well sir, I don't know what's wrong. Tell you what, the parts will be in tomorrow and we'll order TWO of them to make sure.
It's costing me $95 per day for the cracker box little car I'm renting and the motel isn't cheap either, because Robert Redford had been to this town a few times and Paul Newman had skiid here. So I wholesale sold them the piece of junk. . . and now looking for an F250.
Is there a year pre 2008, since I think that's when they started putting the EPA fluid exhaust crap in, that is stock bullet proof? IN an F250? Diesel perhaps? I heard these things will go 300,000 miles without blinking an eye. I've nixed the 2005 6.0L diesel, it's gotten bad reviews. A 7.3L maybe? V10 Triton? or what?
I'm not adverse from buying an F350. Aiming to haul a truck slide in camper to use maybe at most 3000 miles a year, not pull any thing. Would drive btw 5,000 and 10,000 miles a year.
Thanks for any help. Been looking at Toyotas, but don't want to drive a girly man truck Tacoma.
edit: I'm reading/researching about V10's now. Says they do better at high altitudes and don't have to warm up like PSD engines? Better at cold weather starts? Is a V10 gas engine going to go 300,000 miles without much trouble?
After being stranded there for 2 days, they said "Well, you'll need a new exhaust injector and a couple of new sensors"
I said, "But it's only got 17,000 miles on it!"
They said, "Well, that's the way it is. The parts'll be in tomorrow."
Tomorrow comes. "Sorry, the parts'll be in tomorrow at noon and you can be on your way."
Tomorrow noon comes. "Well sir, I don't know what's wrong. Tell you what, the parts will be in tomorrow and we'll order TWO of them to make sure.
It's costing me $95 per day for the cracker box little car I'm renting and the motel isn't cheap either, because Robert Redford had been to this town a few times and Paul Newman had skiid here. So I wholesale sold them the piece of junk. . . and now looking for an F250.
Is there a year pre 2008, since I think that's when they started putting the EPA fluid exhaust crap in, that is stock bullet proof? IN an F250? Diesel perhaps? I heard these things will go 300,000 miles without blinking an eye. I've nixed the 2005 6.0L diesel, it's gotten bad reviews. A 7.3L maybe? V10 Triton? or what?
I'm not adverse from buying an F350. Aiming to haul a truck slide in camper to use maybe at most 3000 miles a year, not pull any thing. Would drive btw 5,000 and 10,000 miles a year.
Thanks for any help. Been looking at Toyotas, but don't want to drive a girly man truck Tacoma.
edit: I'm reading/researching about V10's now. Says they do better at high altitudes and don't have to warm up like PSD engines? Better at cold weather starts? Is a V10 gas engine going to go 300,000 miles without much trouble?
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Your request is a complex one. Obviously you had a powerful diesel, and also obviously, you are willing to look at a gas engine truck.
Are you willing to look at a new truck, or do you have budget constraints? If you are restricted to looking at used trucks, you will need to hunt.
If you are looking at new, I would test drive an F250 or 350 with the 6.2 gas engine. They are reliable and strong, although not as powerful as the diesel. Ownership cost is less, though, and no pesky DPF's, DEF, etc.
Most any modern engine can go 300,000 miles, if it is cared for and well maintained. A diesel can go longer than that. But, at the rate of miles that you are talking about, the rest of the truck would waste away before you reached those mileage totals. So, that probably isn't as much of a consideration as reliability and cost of ownership.
Are you willing to look at a new truck, or do you have budget constraints? If you are restricted to looking at used trucks, you will need to hunt.
If you are looking at new, I would test drive an F250 or 350 with the 6.2 gas engine. They are reliable and strong, although not as powerful as the diesel. Ownership cost is less, though, and no pesky DPF's, DEF, etc.
Most any modern engine can go 300,000 miles, if it is cared for and well maintained. A diesel can go longer than that. But, at the rate of miles that you are talking about, the rest of the truck would waste away before you reached those mileage totals. So, that probably isn't as much of a consideration as reliability and cost of ownership.
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Any used truck will likely have to be worked on. And there's a lot of things to consider when going that route.
Are you going to do the work yourself? If so, there's a lot of information on here that can help with that. Anything from oil and tranny services to engine and tranny rebuilds.
If you're going to hire it out, finding people that REALLY know how to work on them isn't always easy. There's a huge difference between someone that knows what they're doing, and someone that thinks they know what they're doing.(call those guys parts replacers)
7.3's are going for crazy prices in a lot of places. It's not a complicated motor to work on, if you understand how they work. If not, then you better learn a few things before starting in on one.
6.0's have their issues, but if they're still running today, chances are, those issues have been corrected. If they haven't been corrected yet, but is still running good, spend the money and fix it before it breaks.
I don't have any experience with the V-10 motors, just what I hear. They're strong running trucks though, and if 10,000 miles is about all you're going to drive, then that option certainly should be considered.
Are you going to do the work yourself? If so, there's a lot of information on here that can help with that. Anything from oil and tranny services to engine and tranny rebuilds.
If you're going to hire it out, finding people that REALLY know how to work on them isn't always easy. There's a huge difference between someone that knows what they're doing, and someone that thinks they know what they're doing.(call those guys parts replacers)
7.3's are going for crazy prices in a lot of places. It's not a complicated motor to work on, if you understand how they work. If not, then you better learn a few things before starting in on one.
6.0's have their issues, but if they're still running today, chances are, those issues have been corrected. If they haven't been corrected yet, but is still running good, spend the money and fix it before it breaks.
I don't have any experience with the V-10 motors, just what I hear. They're strong running trucks though, and if 10,000 miles is about all you're going to drive, then that option certainly should be considered.
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The 99-03.25 7.3's were bullet proofed before they left the Navistar factory. The best of these motors would be the 99, 00, and very early 01 MY 7.3's as they had forged rods.
The 6.0's made from 03.25-07 MY you would want to bullet proof prices range from $4-12K depending on the shop what they charge and what they do. Most pay around $5K to bullet proof the famous 6.0.
Aren't you under full warranty on the GM pick up? Perhaps some bad fuel?
The 6.0's made from 03.25-07 MY you would want to bullet proof prices range from $4-12K depending on the shop what they charge and what they do. Most pay around $5K to bullet proof the famous 6.0.
Aren't you under full warranty on the GM pick up? Perhaps some bad fuel?
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Thanks for the replies so far. I will go back in time, pre 2008, by buying a pre 2008 truck.
I don't want a new truck now because I already ate all that $ by selling my '15 Chevy. Loved the power.
As I only drive btw 5 and 10k a year, figure the next truck will last me rest of my life.
Won't be working on it myself, as I barely know how to change oil.
Found what SEEMED to be a sweet 2005 F250 Diesel with 117,000 miles, but has the 6.0L power stroke... I mentioned this to my mechanic down the street and he immediately started frowning. (he said I should start running a ***** house in order to pay for all the expenses on that motor) The dealer DID say the EGR cooler had been taken care of ( I never even heard of an EGR cooler, so shows my expertise in such matters) but research tells me the TURBO might go out?
Yeah, Chevy was under warranty...yep, some jack leg outfit sold me some exhaust fluid, 2 bottles for the one regular price. I didn't know that stuff could be bad. That's what caused some of the problems. But at $200 a day staying where Robert Redford stayed, it was killing me.
Guess at my high elevation, the V10 is looking good now. Wonder what its HP and torque is?
What does Cabela's truck mean? Just has camo somewhere?
I don't want a new truck now because I already ate all that $ by selling my '15 Chevy. Loved the power.
As I only drive btw 5 and 10k a year, figure the next truck will last me rest of my life.
Won't be working on it myself, as I barely know how to change oil.
Found what SEEMED to be a sweet 2005 F250 Diesel with 117,000 miles, but has the 6.0L power stroke... I mentioned this to my mechanic down the street and he immediately started frowning. (he said I should start running a ***** house in order to pay for all the expenses on that motor) The dealer DID say the EGR cooler had been taken care of ( I never even heard of an EGR cooler, so shows my expertise in such matters) but research tells me the TURBO might go out?
Yeah, Chevy was under warranty...yep, some jack leg outfit sold me some exhaust fluid, 2 bottles for the one regular price. I didn't know that stuff could be bad. That's what caused some of the problems. But at $200 a day staying where Robert Redford stayed, it was killing me.
Guess at my high elevation, the V10 is looking good now. Wonder what its HP and torque is?
What does Cabela's truck mean? Just has camo somewhere?
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Looks like I'll be looking for the 2008-2010 with the V10, plenty enuf HP with 362 and good torque with 457 fp. Thanks NoJoke and Master Sgt Redford. (my Dad was a Stf Sgt in WWII; got his middle finger shot off by mortar shrapnel) Sergeants are the real backbone of the military. I believe Audie Murphy and Dakota Meyer both started out as sgt's.
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Looks like I'll be looking for the 2008-2010 with the V10, plenty enuf HP with 362 and good torque with 457 fp. Thanks NoJoke and Master Sgt Redford. (my Dad was a Stf Sgt in WWII; got his middle finger shot off by mortar shrapnel) Sergeants are the real backbone of the military. I believe Audie Murphy and Dakota Meyer both started out as sgt's.
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I personally put 115k on my '05 6.0. It was never "bulletproofed" and it's still running around town in stock form today (EGR unplugged). Last I heard the guy (second owner) has about 375k on it and never any major repairs other than normal wear items (ball joints, brakes). He was talking about trading up to a new one but not sure if he ever did.
Point is if you can find one that's been taken care of and not abused then bulletproofing isn't necessarily required.
Point is if you can find one that's been taken care of and not abused then bulletproofing isn't necessarily required.
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Bought a 2000 7.3 F-250 with 228,000 miles on it. Did some minor maintenance and changed all fluids then drove it cross country (7000 miles) pulling a 30 ft travel trailer. Love the diesel and the reliability of the 7.3. It is a beast of a truck, even at 16 years old...
As mentioned earlier, don't let your thoughts of what you want/need change without very careful consideration. Your situation is probably different than anyone that has posted in this thread. Do a lot of research, find out what yours and what fuel truck you like and then seek one out.
As mentioned earlier, don't let your thoughts of what you want/need change without very careful consideration. Your situation is probably different than anyone that has posted in this thread. Do a lot of research, find out what yours and what fuel truck you like and then seek one out.