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Thanx! I greatly appreciate that info.
 
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here are some trans/clutch area pictures. it this helps on the clutch (if that is what is now preventing the starter from working). Thanx.
I just noticed, I think my e-brake isn't securely fastened.
I see two things in your pics.

1. Your park brake is engaged. So, if the truck is in gear, that may be the reason it won't start.

2. Your park brake is missing a couple of parts. The left side adjusting bolt p/n 2616 and spring p/n 2640.

 
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Originally Posted by Jolly Roger Joe
I see two things in your pics.

1. Your park brake is engaged. So, if the truck is in gear, that may be the reason it won't start.

2. Your park brake is missing a couple of parts. The left side adjusting bolt p/n 2616 and spring p/n 2640.

DC has 1 of the nos part 01T-2640 spring.
Green Sales (513) 294-8385 has 8

Nobody is listing the bolt, but it is 5/16"-18 x 1 3/4"
 
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DC has 1 of the nos part 01T-2640 spring.
Green Sales (513) 294-8385 has 8

Nobody is listing the bolt, but it is 5/16"-18 x 1 3/4"
Thanks for looking those up Joe.
 
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Great, thanks. I'm making a parts list as I run across, or am helped, spotting missing items.
Well, I've found a small leak in my radiator (weird, dead center, backside), so I'm going to get that too it looks like.
As for the clutch, I took off the arm and thought I could move it myself, it has about 1/4 to 1/2 inch travel before it stops it looks like. And I've noticed where the arm attaches, that rod slides in and out a little in the clutch assembly? This leaves a gap between the clutch arm and the pivot ball. I'm assuming my clutch arm/fork is the correct length?

Also, some of my wiring is frayed so I wondering if I should just go ahead and re-wire. It looks pretty straight forward with the shop manual and supplemental guides.

And then I need to get to the brakes...
 
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Great, thanks. I'm making a parts list as I run across, or am helped, spotting missing items.
Well, I've found a small leak in my radiator (weird, dead center, backside), so I'm going to get that too it looks like.
As for the clutch, I took off the arm and thought I could move it myself, it has about 1/4 to 1/2 inch travel before it stops it looks like. And I've noticed where the arm attaches, that rod slides in and out a little in the clutch assembly? This leaves a gap between the clutch arm and the pivot ball. I'm assuming my clutch arm/fork is the correct length?

Also, some of my wiring is frayed so I wondering if I should just go ahead and re-wire. It looks pretty straight forward with the shop manual and supplemental guides.

And then I need to get to the brakes...
Rewiring a stock truck is pretty simple, even without a new harness. I did it, and added turn signals, a right taillight, turn signals in the park lights, a head light relay and replaced the circuit breakers with a fuse panel. If you'd like to read about it, go to post #290 of my build thread. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...roject-15.html
 
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Originally Posted by Jolly Roger Joe
Rewiring a stock truck is pretty simple, even without a new harness. I did it, and added turn signals, a right taillight, turn signals in the park lights, a head light relay and replaced the circuit breakers with a fuse panel. If you'd like to read about it, go to post #290 of my build thread. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...roject-15.html
I thought about that there are three options:
1. just getting the wires and fuse block
2. Buy harness from someone like LMC or DC
3. or I found this on eBya, what do you think? Is it a wire gauge suited for 12v? And it doesn't seem to have battery and starter wires?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/181846686295?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
 
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Originally Posted by chrislynn5
I thought about that there are three options:
1. just getting the wires and fuse block
2. Buy harness from someone like LMC or DC
3. or I found this on eBay, what do you think? Is it a wire gauge suited for 12v? And it doesn't seem to have battery and starter wires?
1948 1952 Ford Truck Wire Harness Fuse Block Upgrade Kit | eBay
It looks like a 14 circuit box with a headlight relay? It says it's 18 circuits, but I only count 14 fuses and slots. And that looks like the t/s flasher as well.

But it has a relay for 12 volts. Did you convert your truck from 6 volts, or do you plan to? That wiring does not look like heavy enough gauge for a 6 volt system.
 
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Originally Posted by Jolly Roger Joe
It looks like a 14 circuit box with a headlight relay? It says it's 18 circuits, but I only count 14 fuses and slots. And that looks like the t/s flasher as well.

But it has a relay for 12 volts. Did you convert your truck from 6 volts, or do you plan to? That wiring does not look like heavy enough gauge for a 6 volt system.
I didn't convert the truck, I bought it converted. So it's 12V (please check out my electrical pics on another post: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...f6-1948-a.html and let me know if you see something not right).
Did you mean heavy enough for 12V? Thanx.
I have an email into the seller, supposedly there are instructions showing an install
 
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I didn't convert the truck, I bought it converted. So it's 12V (please check out my electrical pics on another post: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...f6-1948-a.html and let me know if you see something not right).
Did you mean heavy enough for 12V? Thanx.
I have an email into the seller, supposedly there are instructions showing an install
No, I did not mean heavy enough for 12 volt. The stock 6 volt wiring is heavier gauge than stock 12 volt wiring.

It's good to talk with the seller to find out which circuits are provided in the kit. It looks like the wires are labelled, which would be a bonus if the labels extend along the entire wire.

And my recommendation for your harness replacement is to unwrap and trace ALL of your existing wires from their source to their destination, marking them with masking tape for reference and needed length.

For example, the black wire connected to ground with the screw at the bottom of your voltage regulator is likely the ground for your headlights. But releasing it from the wrap will allow you to trace it.
 
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3. or I found this on eBya, what do you think? Is it a wire gauge suited for 12v? And it doesn't seem to have battery and starter wires?
Looks like the one I used. It should work fine. Hopefully the instructions are good.
 
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Originally Posted by Jolly Roger Joe
No, I did not mean heavy enough for 12 volt. The stock 6 volt wiring is heavier gauge than stock 12 volt wiring.

It's good to talk with the seller to find out which circuits are provided in the kit. It looks like the wires are labelled, which would be a bonus if the labels extend along the entire wire.

And my recommendation for your harness replacement is to unwrap and trace ALL of your existing wires from their source to their destination, marking them with masking tape for reference and needed length.

For example, the black wire connected to ground with the screw at the bottom of your voltage regulator is likely the ground for your headlights. But releasing it from the wrap will allow you to trace it.
Good input, thanx guys. I've been hijacking my own thread so I thought I'd post my 12V questions on this one. If you could please take a look, that would be much appreciated,t hanx again.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post15640774
 
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Originally Posted by chrislynn5
I thought about that there are three options:
1. just getting the wires and fuse block
2. Buy harness from someone like LMC or DC
3. or I found this on eBya, what do you think? Is it a wire gauge suited for 12v? And it doesn't seem to have battery and starter wires?
1948 1952 Ford Truck Wire Harness Fuse Block Upgrade Kit | eBay
Looks like a lot of money for a chinese universal kit, google the manufacturers part# and you find this outfits sells it as the correct kit for dozens of other cars/trucks. When I redid my F5 I got an WZ-wire harness for less than that, and it included a lot more than that kit, plus ih had enough wire to reach all the way to the back of my 12' bed.. These are the same folks that sell the junk chinese ifs kits.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/12-CIRCUIT-UNIVERSAL-WIRE-HARNESS-MUSCLE-CAR-HOT-ROD-STREET-ROD-RAT-ROD-NEW/321544837130?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3Dc1e0c55c99174c36b88d0825d5b8f11a%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26mehot%3Dag%26sd%3D261824512951http://www.ebay.com/itm/EZ-Wiring-MINI-Wiring-Harness-21-Circuit-Street-Rod-/231642359043?_trksid=p2141725.m3641.l6368
 
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Looks like a lot of money for a chinese universal kit, google the manufacturers part# and you find this outfits sells it as the correct kit for dozens of other cars/trucks. When I redid my F5 I got an WZ-wire harness for less than that, and it included a lot more than that kit, plus ih had enough wire to reach all the way to the back of my 12' bed.. These are the same folks that sell the junk chinese ifs kits.


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Thanx, I'll check them out. I was curious since LMC, etc have full harness for $600+ (ouch).
 
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tomorrow, I'll give it a try. I'm wondering if I just disconnect and mount that back on the ball joint and secure it. If that will be enough for the clutch?
I just happened to look at the ad from when you bought the truck, the seller said that the clutch fork needed fixed. That is inside, you will have to pull either the engine or the tranny to get to it.
 


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