Is a Pallet of topsoil too heavy?
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Is a Pallet of topsoil too heavy?
Okay,
So I need to pick up a pallet of topsoil (50-75 bags) for some landscaping work and don't really want to make 2 trips. I know the pallet will fit in the back of my van.
I built this to set the pallet on. It is 3/4" plywood with 2x4's laid flat for support.
I arranged the 2x4's to miss the seat bracket, so the brackets provide some support where the 2x4's aren't.
I have e-rated LT tires that are 2680lbs a piece etc. My concern is that the topsoil could just be too heavy for the frame/suspension. I figure it will probably be in the 2000-3000lb range (figure 40lbs a bag). The 3000lbs estimate puts me about 700lbs over the vans GVWR of 8550lbs (me and the van weigh 6250lbs). What do you guys think?
I have some other options (friends with trailers etc), but I don't like to borrow equipment and I kinda wanna put the old girl to work.
So I need to pick up a pallet of topsoil (50-75 bags) for some landscaping work and don't really want to make 2 trips. I know the pallet will fit in the back of my van.
I built this to set the pallet on. It is 3/4" plywood with 2x4's laid flat for support.
I arranged the 2x4's to miss the seat bracket, so the brackets provide some support where the 2x4's aren't.
I have e-rated LT tires that are 2680lbs a piece etc. My concern is that the topsoil could just be too heavy for the frame/suspension. I figure it will probably be in the 2000-3000lb range (figure 40lbs a bag). The 3000lbs estimate puts me about 700lbs over the vans GVWR of 8550lbs (me and the van weigh 6250lbs). What do you guys think?
I have some other options (friends with trailers etc), but I don't like to borrow equipment and I kinda wanna put the old girl to work.
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Far more important than power is your braking and suspension. It really depends what kind of roads and speeds you expect to see. If this was a short trip at moderate speeds, I think I would be comfortable doing it.
Although, I would never advise someone else to exceed the rated capacity of any vehicle . . .
Although, I would never advise someone else to exceed the rated capacity of any vehicle . . .
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Far more important than power is your braking and suspension. It really depends what kind of roads and speeds you expect to see. If this was a short trip at moderate speeds, I think I would be comfortable doing it.
Although, I would never advise someone else to exceed the rated capacity of any vehicle . . .
Although, I would never advise someone else to exceed the rated capacity of any vehicle . . .
The trip is all back country roads etc. Maybe 30 miles total.
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Once I hauled a pallet of landscaping rocks. The forklift guy broke Lowe's company rules by just forklifting it into the back. We estimated it was about 1 ton.
My suspension is very clean so it only sagged about 2 inches.
Recently, I hauled five 55-gallon barrels of oil about 200 miles. No problem hauling that 2000 lbs.
In 2013, I hauled about 4000 lbs of vegetable oil about 1000 miles. It sagged about 3 inches, but had LOTS of clearance still.
These were not on a trailer (only in the back fo the van). I suspect you'll be fine hauling that pallet of soil.
My suspension is very clean so it only sagged about 2 inches.
Recently, I hauled five 55-gallon barrels of oil about 200 miles. No problem hauling that 2000 lbs.
In 2013, I hauled about 4000 lbs of vegetable oil about 1000 miles. It sagged about 3 inches, but had LOTS of clearance still.
These were not on a trailer (only in the back fo the van). I suspect you'll be fine hauling that pallet of soil.
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The rear shocks are easy enough to replace if you want to upgrade. And you can put a few of those coil spacers if you have clearance problems. BUT, unless you have major suspension deterioration, an E250 with 8-lugs and good truck tires probably won't even be affected by 1-ton in the back.
When you think about it, some of these E250 clubwagons had 8- and 12-seating options, so 8 dudes at 200lbs each with their luggage equals about a ton.
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I appreciate everyone's input. Sounds like I would be fine with it in the back of the van if needed. I was tempted to load it in the back of the van to see how it would do, but I decided to go the trailer route. A friend volunteered his trailer and since it has trailer brakes I figured it would be safer. Trailer + the soils was about 4500lbs. I hardly noticed it was there. Was able to set the cruise and run my DNE2 in high (overdrive) through the small hills we have here. It made me want to buy another couple of pallets and go find some big hills as an experiment.......
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Though I don't think I would have trusted the forklift operator that close to the van. The first one just set the pallet on the back half of the trailer and said "there you go". Talk about negative tongue weight, it was trying to lift the back of the van up. When I told him where I wanted it he ended up calling another operator over. Set the pallet on the front from the side, side shifted it as close to the trailer axle as as he could and then held the front of the pallet with his forks while I pulled forward. Worked like a charm. I think the first guy was pretty new.