Problem with Fuel Delivery....is it the pump?
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Problem with Fuel Delivery....is it the pump?
Hey all,
Got an issue with my 1996 F250 4x4 SuperCab 5.8L. I have twin tanks. The rear one has no issues whatsoever. The front one...when it's full of fuel it will run fine for a bit and then will start to act like the truck is suddenly weighed down with an anchor. Pressing the accelerator to the floor actually makes the issue worse. Wildly varying the accelerator position seems to get me through it, but that is kind of a pain. The more fuel that gets used the better the problem is, when the tank is almost empty it seems to work fine like 90% of the time, the other 10% is like the symptoms above.
I suspect it's the fuel pump (or fuel delivery module as some call it). Does that seem right? Just thought I'd ask before I go through the trouble of dropping the tank, changing the FDM and putting the tank back in.
Thanks for the help.
Got an issue with my 1996 F250 4x4 SuperCab 5.8L. I have twin tanks. The rear one has no issues whatsoever. The front one...when it's full of fuel it will run fine for a bit and then will start to act like the truck is suddenly weighed down with an anchor. Pressing the accelerator to the floor actually makes the issue worse. Wildly varying the accelerator position seems to get me through it, but that is kind of a pain. The more fuel that gets used the better the problem is, when the tank is almost empty it seems to work fine like 90% of the time, the other 10% is like the symptoms above.
I suspect it's the fuel pump (or fuel delivery module as some call it). Does that seem right? Just thought I'd ask before I go through the trouble of dropping the tank, changing the FDM and putting the tank back in.
Thanks for the help.
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My front pump was failing and did the same thing. I purchased a fuel pressure gauge from harbor freight (bout $20) and tested it. I was getting 45 psi at idle and it dropped even lower under a load. Normal for my engine (4.9) should be about 55-60. I'm pretty sure that the v8 fuel pressure is within 5 pounds of my straight 6 since they have similar displacements.
After troubleshooting, if you determine that your fuel pump is failing, You also will need to investigate what size and kind of tank you have so that you have. There are a couple diferent options for fuel pumps.
After troubleshooting, if you determine that your fuel pump is failing, You also will need to investigate what size and kind of tank you have so that you have. There are a couple diferent options for fuel pumps.
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A couple of other questions for you fine folks!
1) I'm very handy...approximately how long does it take to remove the fuel tank?
2) Can the truck be driven without the front fuel tank in the event I cannot get it all done in one afternoon? (as in can it be driven without spewing gas everywhere if I only have the switch to the rear tank/pump?)
1) I'm very handy...approximately how long does it take to remove the fuel tank?
2) Can the truck be driven without the front fuel tank in the event I cannot get it all done in one afternoon? (as in can it be driven without spewing gas everywhere if I only have the switch to the rear tank/pump?)
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Removing the front tank was not hard in my opinion. First thing was to transfer the fuel out of the tank. I used a 5 dollar hand pump.
-next I put 2 jack stands under the fuel tank And a jack to control the weight.
-disconnect the 2 straps (just a bolt and nut on one end of the strap)
- the I lowered my tank a few inches to gain access the fuel lines and the fuel neck. Disconnect them and unplug the fuel pump.
-then drop the tank the rest of the way down to the ground
-use a punch (I used plastic scraper so as not to create sparks), with the punch hammer the ring that secures the pump housing to the tanks ( should rotate the ring less than 1/4 of a turn
-remove the ring and pull the pump assy out of the tank.
-look for the float, fuel strainer, and oring if they fall off
Installation is in the reverse.
A few notes, I replaced my entire fuel pump assembly. If you replace only the fuel pump itself you will have to unhook the pump from the hanger and wire the new one in place.
-also my new pump used the new style connector and I had to splice in a new harness connector. Not hard but it added a few more minutes to the install.
All together it took me about 2 hours using basic tools from my garage.
-----also I kept a water hose near by and I soaked my driveway down and kept it wet while dropping the tank (just to be safe)
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As far as driving with the tank removed. It's not as simple as just unhooking it and driving with the selector on the other tank. There are some changes that have to be made and I can't remember off the top of my head what that process is.
I know that the tanks do cross feed with each other and the check valves are on the fuel pump assembly, so with the fuel pump removed the open line will dump fuel due to pressure from the other pump.
-next I put 2 jack stands under the fuel tank And a jack to control the weight.
-disconnect the 2 straps (just a bolt and nut on one end of the strap)
- the I lowered my tank a few inches to gain access the fuel lines and the fuel neck. Disconnect them and unplug the fuel pump.
-then drop the tank the rest of the way down to the ground
-use a punch (I used plastic scraper so as not to create sparks), with the punch hammer the ring that secures the pump housing to the tanks ( should rotate the ring less than 1/4 of a turn
-remove the ring and pull the pump assy out of the tank.
-look for the float, fuel strainer, and oring if they fall off
Installation is in the reverse.
A few notes, I replaced my entire fuel pump assembly. If you replace only the fuel pump itself you will have to unhook the pump from the hanger and wire the new one in place.
-also my new pump used the new style connector and I had to splice in a new harness connector. Not hard but it added a few more minutes to the install.
All together it took me about 2 hours using basic tools from my garage.
-----also I kept a water hose near by and I soaked my driveway down and kept it wet while dropping the tank (just to be safe)
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As far as driving with the tank removed. It's not as simple as just unhooking it and driving with the selector on the other tank. There are some changes that have to be made and I can't remember off the top of my head what that process is.
I know that the tanks do cross feed with each other and the check valves are on the fuel pump assembly, so with the fuel pump removed the open line will dump fuel due to pressure from the other pump.
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Pump fixed, now leaking...hmm
Well...got it changed yesterday....it was indeed the pump. However now it leaks slightly at the junction of the fuel pump hanger and the tank flange. I had to reuse the original seal because none of the new ones would fit. I did thoroughly clean it, but i wonder if I didn't run the locking ring around far enough. Do you guys think that I can crawl under the truck and tap the ring around further or am I going to have to take it back out and replace the seal?
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