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Old 11-10-2014, 09:41 AM
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This is the style of power steering bracket I have on my 77 F250 4x4. When I look this part up, it should be for a 351. The reason for this post is, I am having a heck of a time trying to get the pulleys to line up. I don't want to brake belts or bearings so do I have the wrong setup? I have the old style hydraulic ram steering set-up. It doesn't leak, it works great, and I'm not trying to replace it. I just want my belt to line up and not stress the system. What have you guys done to modify/ fix this issue with a 460 in a highboy?
 
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If that is the wrong bracket...

Can anyone share a picture or part number of the correct bracket so I may try to source one? Thanks in advance.
 
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Old 11-10-2014, 11:04 AM
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What are you doing, swapping in a 460?

Does the P/S pump have a steel or plastic reservoir?
 
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I already have the 460

460 has been in. The pump in the old school hydraulic. Steel reservoir with a dipstick. My pulleys just don't seem to line up right.
 
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460 wasn't available with a M/T or 4WD until 1983.

D0AZ-3C511-F .. P/S Pump Support Bracket / Marked: D0AA-3C511-F / Obsolete

1973/79 F100/350 460 / 1970/71 Thunderbird 429 / 1970/72 Galaxie/LTD/Mercury Marquis/Torino/Montego 429.

D1AZ-3A732-A .. P/S Pump Adjusting Bracket-Use with steel reservoir pump / Obsolete

1971/77 F100/350 all V8 / 1970/73 Galaxie/LTD/Torino/Montego 351C/429 / 1971/73 Galaxie/LTD 400 / 1971/72 Thunderbird 429.
 
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Thanks as usual ND



This seems to be the correct mount. This is what is on my friend's 76 F250 4x4.


This is what I think I need to find.
 
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This seems to be the correct mount. This is what is on my friend's 76 F250 4x4.


This is what I think I need to find.
There should be an ID engineering number stamped on the bracket, post what it is.
 
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I seem to remember reading about this issue before, are you mounting the bracket flat to the block? I think you need some small spacers to hold the bracket off the block just a bit? See the red arrow?

Eye ball this L and L Products

And sorry no pic of that side of the engine of ol blue, so you have to wait till I get back home, than I will ck my set up. And post up some pics for you.
 
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Spacers are in

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I seem to remember reading about this issue before, are you mounting the bracket flat to the block? I think you need some small spacers to hold the bracket off the block just a bit? See the red arrow?

Eye ball this L and L Products

There is a spacer at the water pump and the head. I like that one there though. They seem to have the rear spacer deleted by putting welded arm in it's place. My bracket is just at the wrong geometry. The pump is too low and out of line with the water pump pulley. The bracket I have seems to be the one for the newer steering, just minus the actual adjuster.
 
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D1AZ-8A652-A .. Spacer / 7/16" I.D. x 1.00" O.D. x 4 13/16" long > Cut to fit (Motorcraft YS-30) / Obsolete

GREEN SALES CO. in Cincinnati OH has 35 = 800-543-4959.
 
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Can you flip the p/s pulley to set more out ward? And way to mount the p.s pump in the bracket to get more of it to stick out the pulley further??
 
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What vehicle is the 460 from? What pulleys are you using...from the 460 or something else? Does the truck have factory or dealer A/C?
 
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Has the front dipstick

OP put in the 460. It has the front dip stick so my best guess is it's a car motor. Emissions decal said 1976. No A/C, no frills. Old school power steering with the hydraulic ram. My best guess would be that the bracket is off the original 400 2V that came in the truck.
 
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Can you flip the p/s pulley to set more out ward? And way to mount the p.s pump in the bracket to get more of it to stick out the pulley further??
Rich, that would move the offset forward but I don't think that's a good idea. If you flip the pulley then you'll lose the ability to remove the pulley. The little hub with the groove that the pulley puller grabs will now be on the backside of the pulley.
 
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OP put in the 460. It has the front dip stick so my best guess is it's a car motor. Emissions decal said 1976. No A/C, no frills. Old school power steering with the hydraulic ram.

My best guess would be that the bracket is off the original 400 2V that came in the truck.
There are TWO different brackets, part numbers in post 5, picture in post 12.
 


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