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AC Bracket for a 1967 F100 300 engine underdash unit

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You can see my belt arrangement, and photos of my home made mount, up in post 141 on this thread. I believe that it is a 1/2" belt, but I am North of the border right now, and not in Baja, where my truck is parked... It is the standard belt width for the Ford factory pulley, with 3 grooves, on the crankshaft. The pulley I found, in Baja, new in the box BTW, was also a harmonic balancer. At present, it is driving the alternator, water pump, and p/s as well as the A/C compressor. What width of belt are you using?? Mine, might be 7/16", but they do fit flush in the pulley groove..

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You can see my belt arrangement, and photos of my home made mount, up in post 141 on this thread. I believe that it is a 1/2" belt, but I am North of the border right now, and not in Baja, where my truck is parked... It is the standard belt width for the Ford factory pulley, with 3 grooves, on the crankshaft. The pulley I found, in Baja, new in the box BTW, was also a harmonic balancer. At present, it is driving the alternator, water pump, and p/s as well as the A/C compressor. What width of belt are you using?? Mine, might be 7/16", but they do fit flush in the pulley groove..

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Ford always used 1/2" belts for A/C. Plus Ford always made theirs a tad wider to ride at the top of the pulley.
 
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Anyone have an idea what this bracket is for? It came from a 1984 F150 with a 300 engine. I have seen it one other time (it was on a 80 or 81 truck with a 300 engine). The bracket was mounted on the front of the engine --pictured above the power steering bracket. There appears to be an engineering number on the bracket--possibly, FM 7285 - 1. Can this be some sort of bracket for an A/C compressor?








 
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From the locations, I'd say part of the AC bracket.
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That is where my A/C bracket would be, if I had used the York compressor. I went with the newer style Sanden compressor, so it does not use that style of front bracket. Either ND, or Jeff can ID it with numbers, years, and applications. PM either...for the straight skinny..

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From the locations, I'd say part of the AC bracket.
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I also think it may be part of an ac bracket. Does anyone have a photo of the bracket with the compressor and possibly the other brackets that are used to mount the compressor.
 
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I also think an A/C compressor was there. But not factory Ford. Nor a Ford dealer installed kit. The 7285 is not a Ford A/C engineering number. The 7000's group is the transmission section. Plus that bracket does not match any pics in my Ford computer. It had to have been part of an Aftermarket add on A/C kit. Looks like an idler pulley mounted to the top of it where that bolt currently is. Note, factory Ford would have been a FS-6 compressor. Ford dealer installed kits have a Tecumseh compressor listed. Tecumsehs were cast iron and Yorks were aluminum.
 
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Early '80s FS-6 compressor bracket would have looked like this. (This cast iron bracket from an '82 Ford truck with a 300).






From about 1983, the FS-6 compressor brackets would have looked like this.




This FS-6 A/C compressor/stamped steel brackets from an '83 Ford F150 with a 300.





Ford FS-6 A/C compressor.

 
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I know that this is off topic, but you guys are familiar with the 300 engine. Are the power steering brackets that are used on the early 80's F150 compatible with earlier 300 engines (1967 to 1979 trucks)? if so, any other parts that can be used off of an early 80's F150 to accomplish the installation of power steering?
 
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I know that this is off topic, but you guys are familiar with the 300 engine. Are the power steering brackets that are used on the early 80's F150 compatible with earlier 300 engines (1967 to 1979 trucks)? if so, any other parts that can be used off of an early 80's F150 to accomplish the installation of power steering?
The power steering brackets and 3 groove water pump pulley on my 240 are from an '82 F150 that had a 300. I turned the PS pump in as a core for a newly rebuilt pump. I bought a new 3 groove harmonic balancer.




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[QUOTE=ultraranger;15762135]The power steering brackets and 3 groove water pump pulley on my 240 are from an '82 F150 that had a 300. I turned the PS pump in as a core for a newly rebuilt pump. I bought a new 3 groove harmonic balancer.

What did you do with the steering box and steering column?
 
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The power steering brackets and 3 groove water pump pulley on my 240 are from an '82 F150 that had a 300. I turned the PS pump in as a core for a newly rebuilt pump. I bought a new 3 groove harmonic balancer.

What did you do with the steering box and steering column?
I replaced my manual steering '69 F100 gear box for a '78 F150 Saginaw PS gear box and I replaced my '69 manual steering column (with an automatic transmission) for a tilt column from a '78 F150 with an automatic transmission. '78/'79 were the only two years the tilt was used in the Dentsides and Broncos, and that will fit in the Bumpsides with no alteration to their column tube or steering shaft length.

Saginaw boxes were being put in the trucks from '69-'79 (actually, later than that but for our purposes, '69-'79 are the compatible years). You could also use a fixed (non-tilt) column from a '69-'79 truck coupled to a Saginaw PS gear box.

A Bullnose Saginaw PS gear box won't work in a Bumpside/Dentside truck. Those trucks have front steer spindles. Our trucks have rear steer spindles.
 
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UR, Sorry if this is a stupid question. Are the power steering pumps that came with the 80-86 power steering pump brackets (like the one you have on your truck) known as Saginaw pumps or Ford pumps or? I have heard people refer to Saginaw pumps as Canned Ham because of their look but the ones attached to these pumps have that Thompson pencil neck look to them.
 
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UR, Sorry if this is a stupid question. Are the power steering pumps that came with the 80-86 power steering pump brackets (like the one you have on your truck) known as Saginaw pumps or Ford pumps or? I have heard people refer to Saginaw pumps as Canned Ham because of their look but the ones attached to these pumps have that Thompson pencil neck look to them.
Won't learn if you don't ask. From '65-'77, Ford PS pumps were Thompson units. They had a stamped steel reservoir. From '67-'77, the PS pumps had a very small diameter dipstick tube and were referenced as the 'pencil neck' pumps --'65/'66 Thompson pumps actually had a much larger dipstick tube diameter before it was reduced in diameter starting in '67.

In '78, Ford came out with the CII (C-2, or Corporate II) PS pump. It has a plastic reservoir and a large diameter dipstick tube. This pump was in production through about 2003. There was also a version of the C-2 pump plumbed for an extra return line into the base of the dipstick tube, to be used with a hydroboost brake system (can be found on the mid-to-late 90s Ford Super Dutys, as well as some other Ford vehicles).

The Saginaw 'canned ham' PS pump can be found on some Ford Econoline vans.
 


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