F150 Won't start after blown spark plug repair.
#1
F150 Won't start after blown spark plug repair.
I need help Please!
Last weekend my number 4 spark plug blew out while on the highway. The truck stayed on long enough for me to get off the highway and pull over before it died. I towed the truck home. Last night I repaired it with a helicoil and replace the spark plug and coil. Now the truck cranks but won't start. I noticed that my theft light flashes fast and doesn't stop after a few seconds or during cranking. I still haven't tested relays or fuses because it was late after the repair. I will be checking those tonight. I was wondering if anyone has ever had this issue before and what did they do to get it running. If anyone has any questions on what I need to check first or any ideas to get it running again, please reply. I will be reading and taking suggestions and posting my results tonight while I'm working on the truck. I will be checking the fuel pump and PCM relay tonight. I will also try 2 different keys and checking the Inertia switch on the fuel pump to see if that tripped. Are there any other suggestions or test I should do if all these pass? Any help would be greatly appreciated. The truck is a 2001 F-150 Lariat Supercrew with 150k miles on it. 5.4 liter engine.
Last weekend my number 4 spark plug blew out while on the highway. The truck stayed on long enough for me to get off the highway and pull over before it died. I towed the truck home. Last night I repaired it with a helicoil and replace the spark plug and coil. Now the truck cranks but won't start. I noticed that my theft light flashes fast and doesn't stop after a few seconds or during cranking. I still haven't tested relays or fuses because it was late after the repair. I will be checking those tonight. I was wondering if anyone has ever had this issue before and what did they do to get it running. If anyone has any questions on what I need to check first or any ideas to get it running again, please reply. I will be reading and taking suggestions and posting my results tonight while I'm working on the truck. I will be checking the fuel pump and PCM relay tonight. I will also try 2 different keys and checking the Inertia switch on the fuel pump to see if that tripped. Are there any other suggestions or test I should do if all these pass? Any help would be greatly appreciated. The truck is a 2001 F-150 Lariat Supercrew with 150k miles on it. 5.4 liter engine.
#2
Two things.
First the Heli coil repair is not a good one.
You needed to research what is the preferred method of repair.
Look up 'Time Sert'.
.
Do the following and come back with the result.
Turn key to 'run' only and let set a few minutes while observing the Theft light for a coded blink.
If you see it do it a couple times to be sure you see the same 2 digit code, then tell us what it is so we can tell you what the PATS system is detecting.
Good luck.
First the Heli coil repair is not a good one.
You needed to research what is the preferred method of repair.
Look up 'Time Sert'.
.
Do the following and come back with the result.
Turn key to 'run' only and let set a few minutes while observing the Theft light for a coded blink.
If you see it do it a couple times to be sure you see the same 2 digit code, then tell us what it is so we can tell you what the PATS system is detecting.
Good luck.
#3
Hello Bluegrass,
Thank you for your reply. I was incorrect when I said it was a Heli-coil. I used the Ford Spark plug repair kit 5553 make by Timesert. I just thought the insert was called a helicoil.
I didn't get to read this last night. I will try this tonight and post my results. Thanks again for your help.
Thank you for your reply. I was incorrect when I said it was a Heli-coil. I used the Ford Spark plug repair kit 5553 make by Timesert. I just thought the insert was called a helicoil.
I didn't get to read this last night. I will try this tonight and post my results. Thanks again for your help.
#4
Two things.
First the Heli coil repair is not a good one.
You needed to research what is the preferred method of repair.
Look up 'Time Sert'.
.
Do the following and come back with the result.
Turn key to 'run' only and let set a few minutes while observing the Theft light for a coded blink.
If you see it do it a couple times to be sure you see the same 2 digit code, then tell us what it is so we can tell you what the PATS system is detecting.
Good luck.
First the Heli coil repair is not a good one.
You needed to research what is the preferred method of repair.
Look up 'Time Sert'.
.
Do the following and come back with the result.
Turn key to 'run' only and let set a few minutes while observing the Theft light for a coded blink.
If you see it do it a couple times to be sure you see the same 2 digit code, then tell us what it is so we can tell you what the PATS system is detecting.
Good luck.
#5
The PATS has nothing to do with cylinder repair.
The fast flashing is indicating a problem.
Are you sure you gave the system enough time to self diagnose and flash the code?
Have you tried a second key?
Another way is to trigger the dash diagnostics and read any trouble code off the mileage indicator.
This procedure is a bit complex to explain so you need to look up the procedure and the codes that may be displayed.
The Theft system inhibits the fuel delivery when a problem is detected.
Some one may post the procedure for you.
Good luck.
The fast flashing is indicating a problem.
Are you sure you gave the system enough time to self diagnose and flash the code?
Have you tried a second key?
Another way is to trigger the dash diagnostics and read any trouble code off the mileage indicator.
This procedure is a bit complex to explain so you need to look up the procedure and the codes that may be displayed.
The Theft system inhibits the fuel delivery when a problem is detected.
Some one may post the procedure for you.
Good luck.
#6
The PATS has nothing to do with cylinder repair.
The fast flashing is indicating a problem.
Are you sure you gave the system enough time to self diagnose and flash the code?
Have you tried a second key?
Another way is to trigger the dash diagnostics and read any trouble code off the mileage indicator.
This procedure is a bit complex to explain so you need to look up the procedure and the codes that may be displayed.
The Theft system inhibits the fuel delivery when a problem is detected.
Some one may post the procedure for you.
Good luck.
The fast flashing is indicating a problem.
Are you sure you gave the system enough time to self diagnose and flash the code?
Have you tried a second key?
Another way is to trigger the dash diagnostics and read any trouble code off the mileage indicator.
This procedure is a bit complex to explain so you need to look up the procedure and the codes that may be displayed.
The Theft system inhibits the fuel delivery when a problem is detected.
Some one may post the procedure for you.
Good luck.
I found this link online. Could the PATS system have lost it's configuration and needs to be reprogrammed?
http://my.cardone.com/techdocs/PT%2078-0004.pdf
So I went out again and tried it again. this time I did see that it gave out a code. It flashed 1 then 6 more. What does that mean?
Last edited by treyes9432; 10-11-2013 at 09:45 PM. Reason: More information
#7
Some listed codes: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...ble-codes.html
Might be accurate for your truck. I'm not sure.
Might be accurate for your truck. I'm not sure.
Last edited by Lime1GT; 10-12-2013 at 10:09 PM. Reason: info
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I gave it about 4 to 5 minutes. I can try again tomorrow and see if it changes. I will also try to pull any codes from the dash and post them. I think you are correct that it was caused by a problem. I think it might've been caused when the coil popped out and didn't fire the cylinder. I checked the fuel inertia valve and it's not tripped. Now that the repair has been is there a way to clear the problem?
I found this link online. Could the PATS system have lost it's configuration and needs to be reprogrammed?
http://my.cardone.com/techdocs/PT%2078-0004.pdf
So I went out again and tried it again. this time I did see that it gave out a code. It flashed 1 then 6 more. What does that mean?
I found this link online. Could the PATS system have lost it's configuration and needs to be reprogrammed?
http://my.cardone.com/techdocs/PT%2078-0004.pdf
So I went out again and tried it again. this time I did see that it gave out a code. It flashed 1 then 6 more. What does that mean?
#10
That is really weird. On mine the PATS transceiver is mounted right by the key cylinder. It has 4 wires...white,blue,black and orange that terminate at a white connector right below one of the back mounting points for the steering column. Maybe check that connector? Hard to believe that could come unplugged. As mentioned I would start looking around that area under the hood where you were working for any type of wiring damage. I can't see how the two are related but weird stuff can happen. Good Luck and hope you figure it out soon.
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