On Excursion 6.0 4x4 has anyone switched from Goodyear Silent Armor to Michelin LTX-MS2 tires?
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On Excursion 6.0 4x4 has anyone switched from Goodyear Silent Armor to Michelin LTX-MS2 tires?
After 45000 miles on GY Silent Armor's I just had new Michelin LTX-MS2's mounted and balanced by Ford, I am still questioning whether or not new GSA's would have been the better choice. I still have 2 weeks left under Michelin's 30 day guarantee, so I would appreciate any input that any of you have had in going from GSA's to the LTX-MS2's or going from LTX-MS2's to GSA's on your 4x4 Excursions.
What I have experienced is the following:
Michelin Pros: Lower Rolling Resistance; Less drag when turning yielding shorter turning radius; better MPG by 1.0-1.5 MPG; better cornering; very quiet for LT 10 ply tires. Cons: They appear to give a harder ride on highway and side roads and I have felt a "looser" road feel on highway compared to the GSA's.
Have any of you experienced the same thing where the GSA's offer a softer (while definitely a little noisier) ride on the highway?
Thanks in advance for your input.
Jeff
What I have experienced is the following:
Michelin Pros: Lower Rolling Resistance; Less drag when turning yielding shorter turning radius; better MPG by 1.0-1.5 MPG; better cornering; very quiet for LT 10 ply tires. Cons: They appear to give a harder ride on highway and side roads and I have felt a "looser" road feel on highway compared to the GSA's.
Have any of you experienced the same thing where the GSA's offer a softer (while definitely a little noisier) ride on the highway?
Thanks in advance for your input.
Jeff
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I have the Michelin LTX A/T 2 that were on the truck when I got it. I have not had any problems with them and they work fine whether I tow or not. They have also been good at the boat ramp, even at low tide. Though I don't really do any 4wheeling I did use these tires to unload/load my boat into a lake (from the shore with no boat ramp) and I didn't have a problem that day either.
I will be sticking with these.
I will be sticking with these.
#4
keep the Michelin's
they are hands down the best tire on the market. without a question
but...always one of those
they don't look the coolest, they are expensive, and they'll last for freakin' ever. This is my second set (different vehicles though).
I've also had the Silent Armour. Great tire. I loved it as well. And the price was very very reasonable. But it can't hold a candle to the Michelin. They do look nice however
they are hands down the best tire on the market. without a question
but...always one of those
they don't look the coolest, they are expensive, and they'll last for freakin' ever. This is my second set (different vehicles though).
I've also had the Silent Armour. Great tire. I loved it as well. And the price was very very reasonable. But it can't hold a candle to the Michelin. They do look nice however
#5
#6
keep the Michelin's
they are hands down the best tire on the market. without a question
but...always one of those
they don't look the coolest, they are expensive, and they'll last for freakin' ever. This is my second set (different vehicles though).
I've also had the Silent Armour. Great tire. I loved it as well. And the price was very very reasonable. But it can't hold a candle to the Michelin. They do look nice however
they are hands down the best tire on the market. without a question
but...always one of those
they don't look the coolest, they are expensive, and they'll last for freakin' ever. This is my second set (different vehicles though).
I've also had the Silent Armour. Great tire. I loved it as well. And the price was very very reasonable. But it can't hold a candle to the Michelin. They do look nice however
After the 1st alignment (in degrees):
LF Camber .3; Caster 3.0; Toe .01
RF Camber -.2; Caster 3.2; Toe -.03
Total Toe -.03; SteerAhead .02
LR Camber .1; Toe .12
RR Camber -.03; Toe .16
Total Toe .27; Thrust Angle -.02
After the Realignment (in degrees):
LF Camber .3; Caster 3.0; Toe -.03
RF Camber -.2; Caster 3.2; Toe -.04
Total Toe -.07; Steer Ahead 0.00
LR Camber .1; Toe .13
RR Camber -.3; Toe .18
Total Toe .31; Thrust Angle -.03
Do you think those adjustments would tighten up the steering?
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These are the specifications for alignment for the Excursions. You can compare what you have to this. I do not believe this takes into consideration adjustments to alleviate road crown. Any changes in rake from a lift or change in springs has to be accounted for along with tire changes.
<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3"><caption>Alignment Specifications </caption><tbody><tr><th align="center" valign="bottom">Item </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">LH </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">RH </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">Total/ Split </th></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="4">4x2 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Camber </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.62° ± 1.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.62° ± 1.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0° ± 1.0° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Caster </td><td align="center" valign="top">4.4° ± 1.4° </td><td align="center" valign="top">4.6° ± 1.4° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.2° ± 0.75° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Toe @ curb ride height (positive value is toe-in, negative value is toe-out) </td><td align="center" valign="top">— </td><td align="center" valign="top">— </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.1° ± 0.25° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="4">4x4 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Camber </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.25° ± 1.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.25° ± 1.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0° ± 1.0° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Caster </td><td align="center" valign="top">3.63° ± 2.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">4.0° ± 2.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">-0.37° ± 0.55° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Toe @ curb ride height (positive value is toe-in, negative value is toe-out) </td><td align="center" valign="top">— </td><td align="center" valign="top">— </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.01° ± 0.25° </td></tr></tbody></table>
<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3"><caption>General Specifications </caption><tbody><tr><th align="center" valign="bottom">Item </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">Specification </th></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="2">Ride Height — 4x2 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Front — RH </td><td align="center" valign="top">108 mm (4.24 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Front — LH </td><td align="center" valign="top">114 mm (4.72 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Rear </td><td align="center" valign="top">156 mm (5.32 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="2">Ride Height — 4x4 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Front </td><td align="center" valign="top">100 mm (4.44 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Rear </td><td align="center" valign="top">142 mm (4.92 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="2">Ball Joint Deflection </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Lower </td><td align="center" valign="top">0-1.0 mm (0-0.040 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Upper </td><td align="center" valign="top">0-0.6 mm (0-0.024 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Wheel bearing end play (4WD) — maximum radial </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.13 mm (0.005 in) </td></tr></tbody></table>
<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3"><caption>Torque Specifications </caption><tbody><tr><th align="center" valign="bottom">Description </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">Nm </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">lb-ft </th></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Adjusting sleeve clamp nuts </td><td align="center" valign="top">55 </td><td align="center" valign="top">41 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Front spring U-bolt nut (4WD) </td><td align="center" valign="top">133 </td><td align="center" valign="top">99 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Rear spring U-bolt nut </td><td align="center" valign="top">200 </td><td align="center" valign="top">148 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Upper ball joint pinch bolt (4x2) </td><td align="center" valign="top">80 </td><td align="center" valign="top">60 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Upper ball joint nut (4x4) </td><td align="center" valign="top">94 </td><td align="center" valign="top">69 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Outer tie-rod castle nut </td><td align="center" valign="top">115 </td><td align="center" valign="top">85 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Lower ball joint nut (4x4) </td><td align="center" valign="top">204 </td><td align="center" valign="top">150
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<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3"><caption>Alignment Specifications </caption><tbody><tr><th align="center" valign="bottom">Item </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">LH </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">RH </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">Total/ Split </th></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="4">4x2 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Camber </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.62° ± 1.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.62° ± 1.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0° ± 1.0° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Caster </td><td align="center" valign="top">4.4° ± 1.4° </td><td align="center" valign="top">4.6° ± 1.4° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.2° ± 0.75° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Toe @ curb ride height (positive value is toe-in, negative value is toe-out) </td><td align="center" valign="top">— </td><td align="center" valign="top">— </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.1° ± 0.25° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="4">4x4 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Camber </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.25° ± 1.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.25° ± 1.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0° ± 1.0° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Caster </td><td align="center" valign="top">3.63° ± 2.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">4.0° ± 2.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">-0.37° ± 0.55° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Toe @ curb ride height (positive value is toe-in, negative value is toe-out) </td><td align="center" valign="top">— </td><td align="center" valign="top">— </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.01° ± 0.25° </td></tr></tbody></table>
<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3"><caption>General Specifications </caption><tbody><tr><th align="center" valign="bottom">Item </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">Specification </th></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="2">Ride Height — 4x2 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Front — RH </td><td align="center" valign="top">108 mm (4.24 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Front — LH </td><td align="center" valign="top">114 mm (4.72 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Rear </td><td align="center" valign="top">156 mm (5.32 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="2">Ride Height — 4x4 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Front </td><td align="center" valign="top">100 mm (4.44 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Rear </td><td align="center" valign="top">142 mm (4.92 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="2">Ball Joint Deflection </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Lower </td><td align="center" valign="top">0-1.0 mm (0-0.040 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Upper </td><td align="center" valign="top">0-0.6 mm (0-0.024 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Wheel bearing end play (4WD) — maximum radial </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.13 mm (0.005 in) </td></tr></tbody></table>
<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3"><caption>Torque Specifications </caption><tbody><tr><th align="center" valign="bottom">Description </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">Nm </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">lb-ft </th></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Adjusting sleeve clamp nuts </td><td align="center" valign="top">55 </td><td align="center" valign="top">41 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Front spring U-bolt nut (4WD) </td><td align="center" valign="top">133 </td><td align="center" valign="top">99 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Rear spring U-bolt nut </td><td align="center" valign="top">200 </td><td align="center" valign="top">148 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Upper ball joint pinch bolt (4x2) </td><td align="center" valign="top">80 </td><td align="center" valign="top">60 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Upper ball joint nut (4x4) </td><td align="center" valign="top">94 </td><td align="center" valign="top">69 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Outer tie-rod castle nut </td><td align="center" valign="top">115 </td><td align="center" valign="top">85 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Lower ball joint nut (4x4) </td><td align="center" valign="top">204 </td><td align="center" valign="top">150
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More information can be found here:
Alignment specs and recommendations - PowerStrokeNation : Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
and here: (This is the best alignment and suspension tutorial for the masses that I have ever seen)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res108eps/...ion-basics.pdf
Alignment specs and recommendations - PowerStrokeNation : Ford Powerstroke Diesel Forum
and here: (This is the best alignment and suspension tutorial for the masses that I have ever seen)
http://mysite.verizon.net/res108eps/...ion-basics.pdf
#10
front & 55 psi rear as was and is recommended by Ford for the Excursion 4x4. And they are obviously brand new, no wear so that cannot be the issue.
The alignment must have been off with the Goodyears as there was mild cupping on the tires after 45000 miles. And it could be that after the alignments what I am experiencing is just the difference in footprint, straight tread vs. aggressive tread?????
As I stated, there are many positives with the Michelins, the truck just "feels different" compared to the road feel I experienced with the Goodyears, the only tires on the truck since I have owned it!
#11
These are the specifications for alignment for the Excursions. You can compare what you have to this. I do not believe this takes into consideration adjustments to alleviate road crown. Any changes in rake from a lift or change in springs has to be accounted for along with tire changes.
<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3"><caption>Alignment Specifications </caption><tbody><tr><th align="center" valign="bottom">Item </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">LH </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">RH </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">Total/ Split </th></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="4">4x2 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Camber </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.62° ± 1.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.62° ± 1.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0° ± 1.0° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Caster </td><td align="center" valign="top">4.4° ± 1.4° </td><td align="center" valign="top">4.6° ± 1.4° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.2° ± 0.75° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Toe @ curb ride height (positive value is toe-in, negative value is toe-out) </td><td align="center" valign="top">— </td><td align="center" valign="top">— </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.1° ± 0.25° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="4">4x4 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Camber </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.25° ± 1.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.25° ± 1.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0° ± 1.0° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Caster </td><td align="center" valign="top">3.63° ± 2.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">4.0° ± 2.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">-0.37° ± 0.55° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Toe @ curb ride height (positive value is toe-in, negative value is toe-out) </td><td align="center" valign="top">— </td><td align="center" valign="top">— </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.01° ± 0.25° </td></tr></tbody></table>
<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3"><caption>General Specifications </caption><tbody><tr><th align="center" valign="bottom">Item </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">Specification </th></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="2">Ride Height — 4x2 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Front — RH </td><td align="center" valign="top">108 mm (4.24 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Front — LH </td><td align="center" valign="top">114 mm (4.72 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Rear </td><td align="center" valign="top">156 mm (5.32 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="2">Ride Height — 4x4 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Front </td><td align="center" valign="top">100 mm (4.44 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Rear </td><td align="center" valign="top">142 mm (4.92 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="2">Ball Joint Deflection </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Lower </td><td align="center" valign="top">0-1.0 mm (0-0.040 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Upper </td><td align="center" valign="top">0-0.6 mm (0-0.024 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Wheel bearing end play (4WD) — maximum radial </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.13 mm (0.005 in) </td></tr></tbody></table>
<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3"><caption>Torque Specifications </caption><tbody><tr><th align="center" valign="bottom">Description </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">Nm </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">lb-ft </th></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Adjusting sleeve clamp nuts </td><td align="center" valign="top">55 </td><td align="center" valign="top">41 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Front spring U-bolt nut (4WD) </td><td align="center" valign="top">133 </td><td align="center" valign="top">99 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Rear spring U-bolt nut </td><td align="center" valign="top">200 </td><td align="center" valign="top">148 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Upper ball joint pinch bolt (4x2) </td><td align="center" valign="top">80 </td><td align="center" valign="top">60 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Upper ball joint nut (4x4) </td><td align="center" valign="top">94 </td><td align="center" valign="top">69 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Outer tie-rod castle nut </td><td align="center" valign="top">115 </td><td align="center" valign="top">85 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Lower ball joint nut (4x4) </td><td align="center" valign="top">204 </td><td align="center" valign="top">150
</td></tr></tbody></table>
<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3"><caption>Alignment Specifications </caption><tbody><tr><th align="center" valign="bottom">Item </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">LH </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">RH </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">Total/ Split </th></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="4">4x2 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Camber </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.62° ± 1.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.62° ± 1.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0° ± 1.0° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Caster </td><td align="center" valign="top">4.4° ± 1.4° </td><td align="center" valign="top">4.6° ± 1.4° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.2° ± 0.75° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Toe @ curb ride height (positive value is toe-in, negative value is toe-out) </td><td align="center" valign="top">— </td><td align="center" valign="top">— </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.1° ± 0.25° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="4">4x4 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Camber </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.25° ± 1.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.25° ± 1.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">0° ± 1.0° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Caster </td><td align="center" valign="top">3.63° ± 2.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">4.0° ± 2.0° </td><td align="center" valign="top">-0.37° ± 0.55° </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Toe @ curb ride height (positive value is toe-in, negative value is toe-out) </td><td align="center" valign="top">— </td><td align="center" valign="top">— </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.01° ± 0.25° </td></tr></tbody></table>
<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3"><caption>General Specifications </caption><tbody><tr><th align="center" valign="bottom">Item </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">Specification </th></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="2">Ride Height — 4x2 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Front — RH </td><td align="center" valign="top">108 mm (4.24 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Front — LH </td><td align="center" valign="top">114 mm (4.72 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Rear </td><td align="center" valign="top">156 mm (5.32 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="2">Ride Height — 4x4 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Front </td><td align="center" valign="top">100 mm (4.44 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Rear </td><td align="center" valign="top">142 mm (4.92 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top" colspan="2">Ball Joint Deflection </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Lower </td><td align="center" valign="top">0-1.0 mm (0-0.040 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Upper </td><td align="center" valign="top">0-0.6 mm (0-0.024 in) </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Wheel bearing end play (4WD) — maximum radial </td><td align="center" valign="top">0.13 mm (0.005 in) </td></tr></tbody></table>
<table border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="3"><caption>Torque Specifications </caption><tbody><tr><th align="center" valign="bottom">Description </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">Nm </th><th align="center" valign="bottom">lb-ft </th></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Adjusting sleeve clamp nuts </td><td align="center" valign="top">55 </td><td align="center" valign="top">41 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Front spring U-bolt nut (4WD) </td><td align="center" valign="top">133 </td><td align="center" valign="top">99 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Rear spring U-bolt nut </td><td align="center" valign="top">200 </td><td align="center" valign="top">148 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Upper ball joint pinch bolt (4x2) </td><td align="center" valign="top">80 </td><td align="center" valign="top">60 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Upper ball joint nut (4x4) </td><td align="center" valign="top">94 </td><td align="center" valign="top">69 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Outer tie-rod castle nut </td><td align="center" valign="top">115 </td><td align="center" valign="top">85 </td></tr><tr><td align="left" valign="top">Lower ball joint nut (4x4) </td><td align="center" valign="top">204 </td><td align="center" valign="top">150
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No change in rake or lift from factory specs, original springs, etc.
So, based upon these charts, do I need to have them install caster shims to increase positive caster? And is my minimal toe-out incorrect as it should be 0? Or, are all my readings acceptable as they are within the accepted ranges? As you can tell I am a novice when it comes to knowledge of alignment!
Thanks for your help.
Jeff
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#13
The Michelins will always yield the best MPG and wear. If your truck is a "pavement princess", then get the Michelins. I say this becuase due to the tread pattern they don't have the teeth to get around in the slick stuff.
I had some on my Excursion before I lifted it and it always got no less than 18 mpg with them on. I was driving into a bar on the lake and they had a little mud in their driveway, I started to drive through it thinking I'd be ok, but then tires started to spin. Two months later, the Ex got lifted and I put some BFG All-terrains on and just happened to end up at that same bar again, it walked right through the mud as if it wasn't there.
My advice:
If your truck spends most of it's time on-road and on the freeway, get the michelins.
If your truck occasionally goes off road and sees mud from time to time, get the Goodyear Silent Armor tires. They're a good combination of off-road grip and on-road manners while yielding good fuel economy.
I had some on my Excursion before I lifted it and it always got no less than 18 mpg with them on. I was driving into a bar on the lake and they had a little mud in their driveway, I started to drive through it thinking I'd be ok, but then tires started to spin. Two months later, the Ex got lifted and I put some BFG All-terrains on and just happened to end up at that same bar again, it walked right through the mud as if it wasn't there.
My advice:
If your truck spends most of it's time on-road and on the freeway, get the michelins.
If your truck occasionally goes off road and sees mud from time to time, get the Goodyear Silent Armor tires. They're a good combination of off-road grip and on-road manners while yielding good fuel economy.
#14
My advice:
If your truck spends most of it's time on-road and on the freeway, get the michelins.
If your truck occasionally goes off road and sees mud from time to time, get the Goodyear Silent Armor tires. They're a good combination of off-road grip and on-road manners while yielding good fuel economy.
If your truck spends most of it's time on-road and on the freeway, get the michelins.
If your truck occasionally goes off road and sees mud from time to time, get the Goodyear Silent Armor tires. They're a good combination of off-road grip and on-road manners while yielding good fuel economy.
#15
Is it possible that since they are filled with nitrogen, that the 1.5 psi difference was that noticeable?